Quail again for LIHL-trial vouch

[ThanoS]

I’ll explain my reasoning.
I don’t judge new trails early on, they need time to adapt and see how the meta and most efficient builds are played here. I needed time to adapt too and still learning myself.
I tend to judge trialist when they’re comfortable and played a good amount of games – which you have.

By this time you should have your own lane sorted, with just some minor adjustments however these mistakes were the opposite.

So my judgement is you played 2 really bad plays, which should be an elementary level tier play to execute. Hence why, nosupport

• This reply was modified 4 years, 6 months ago by ThanoS.

[Quail]

well if thats a really bad game for you to be 2/0 instead of 3/0 for 45 sec and the rest is totally fine, then i cant satisfy your expectations as it seems.

and for the other game i explained my point and dunno what shall i do with my roll? wolvs, cap, copter, rest crap when i full leak to wars and end up mega dead? Another start would be fine afterwards, just play normal wolvs or start 1/0 2 copters or sth like that or start 1/0 + cap and push hard after 3… wanted keep they wyv for 5 6 7 8.

W/e i see ur points and all fine, its just a bit frustrating generally to fulfil expectations like that.

[7years]

ThanoS wrote:

Nice guy but far too many mistakes last few days.
– solo wyv 1 (leaks no send, enemy warr on 1 anyway so didn’t matter so much, but bad knowledge)
– big ob with turrets for no reason (furb on 2, 3 turrets + small add) 5 turrets for 3 vs no send.. 500+ value, still 2/0 after going mid 2 vs the furb.
Feel the above should be mandatory/standard/easy play, sorry !nosupport

If underbuilding level 1 is reason for no vouch, then half of lihl wouldn’t be vouched. Have seen similar lvl 1 fails many times, including myself. If mistakes like that happen often with one player then sure, it’s bad. But making this mistake once is no big deal imo.

And for the turr build: it really depends on the adds. If you have nothing good to mix with turr (other range units / aoe) it is better to get the 5 turrs for 3 and push max after. That way you get a bigger push for lvl 5 and less dead value after, which is especially important if you want to hold level 8 with 7/3. It’s certainly no huge tk missplay.

[ThanoS]

@7years,
You think leaking 1 to no send is good play?
Ofcourse under building 1 ie. 2 turrets ect then leak is fine – it’s RnG
But not a 100% leak to no send. This isn’t good.
And if you think holding furb 2 with 3 turrets and splitter add, staying 2/0, to then 5 turret and splitter for 3 is good(v no send remember), then that’s your opinion. 4 turret, one splitter can hold, along with if you wanna play safe, go 2 splitter. With correct build ofcourse. This 5th turret cost him 2 wisps by start of 3. No need to discuss and add your opinion against mine, this is not a place to argue someone’s opinion, it’s about the trialist which my point is focused on.

[7years]

Yeah, I have seen other vouched players do similar fails on lvl 1, solo wyvern also. It’s a big missplay, no need to argue about it, but a single mistake like that doesn’t warrant an unvouch / deny vouch.

And for the turr game: as I said, it depends on the adds. With spitter it obviously makes sense to push for lvl 3, I agree 100%. Still, this isn’t such a big tk as you think. Going for pure turr does have some upside as it allows you to hold levels 5/6/8 a bit more efficiently than a mix with spitter.

All in all I just wanted to point out that these two examples are in my opionion no reasons to deny a vouch. Sure, if missplays happens in every single game that’s a different story.

[Achillesgr]

of course supporthe can communicate with the team..we know already people who is just 7/1 for 10 they dont even care about teamplay or who have the carry roll…quail is ready to tk his roll just to feed his teammate or push even if he can hold clear just to finish the game when we want a pusher…i think that says everything

[n1ll3]

Denied
talked to him

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