Shadow unban appeal

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  • #12252
    Shadow
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      Your Warcraft III username:shadow
      Ban reason:griefing
      Why you should be unbanned:

      After looking at my replay I am truly sorry for my actions and not joining team as much as I should have. I realize now I could have been more impactful on the game and gave us a better chance at winning. My actions were not so great in the game but I would like a chance to work on them and be a better player and teammate. Please unban me so I may learn how to properly be an ally. My mistakes have taught me a great deal and will allow me to grow from it and do things to satisfy my team and contribute to the goal of the game which is winning. Please consider me for unban, thank you, I appreciate the admin team!

      • This topic was modified 3 years, 8 months ago by Fantom.
      • This topic was modified 3 years, 8 months ago by Fantom.
      #12258
      Hyo
      Moderator

        So after this appeal: https://firstbloodgaming.com/forums/topic/griefing-ban-appeal/ , the admin team has concerns about this new appeal (You went from acknowledging 0 and blaming the admins, to suddenly seeing everything different, and not blaming admins), so if you actually reviewed the game, we ask you the following:

        -> What actions do you see wrong, and what could you have done differently?
        -> Where do you believe you could have had impact (opposed to what happened in the game)?

        Use timestamps (ingame or replay timers are fine) to clarify/justify the above

        Thanks

        #12260
        Shadow
        Participant

          Well at first I was being ignorant. Then I actually took the time to watch my own replay and see where I went wrong and what could have been done to prevent this. So what I noticed were these key things. #1 there was many times I didn’t even have a TP scroll in my inventory, had I had one like most mid heroes shud carry especially after level 6 I could have rotated bot and counter ganked when my team needed help. Then also I was arriving late to a lot of the other team fights like the one at mid tower when 4 of my team was there and by the time I tpd they died. On top of that I should have gave back swift his tangoes once he told me a second time, he did end up buying a new set when I tried to return tangoes but this was caused by me because I did not read the chat which is my job to do so. Overall I think the biggest mistake was just not having a tp handy when I could have rotated for team. The farming would have been fine if I just had a tp to get to team when they needed me and this is what I’m going to do from now is always have a tp in inventory. It’s very bad of me to not rotate when the enemy team has a tinker with travels because Ofc the tinker will constantly gank lanes. The time where I could have had the most impact was the early game bottom fight when I just wasn’t there at all and I was farming jungle/lane. If I even had a tp to come maybe we could have turned things around, because after all tinker is pushing all waves all game after travels so farming all game isn’t the best idea it’s just allowing enemy to have towers. Which bring me to the last point that I should have defend tier 1 towers more, I mostly defend tier 2 and onward but I let the first towers die which is terrible idea it gives enemy team a lot of gold

          #12262
          Hyo
          Moderator

            So let’s go by steps:

            but this was caused by me because I did not read the chat which is my job to do so.

            1) Was it caused by not reading the chat, or were you intentionally doing it, due to what happened before between you and swift? and be honest here – more than 1 admin reviewed the game.

            2) Also from the ban request:

            There was also an incident in which you could definitely have tped to possibly save swift and get at least one kill which you pinged so you were well aware, but you sat fountain and tped after he was already dead and got no kills.

            You were definitely aware here – yet you dind’t do anything, why?

            3) Last but not least, you seem to claim misplays, lack of attention, etc. – however and from our review, what we saw was you ignoring chat (when asked in a polite/respectful way) to help and play with your team, and your behaviour only changed when the report threat was brought up, so where do you stand atm? Did you misplay/dind’t pay attention, or had 2nd intentions and intentionally griefed?

            Thanks

            #12263
            Shadow
            Participant

              So for your first question, no I did not intentionally take the tangoes without returning, I was starting stream I legit did not see he asked for the tangoes back, after he asked for the tangoes back a second time you can see in game at bottom rune I said “take it” and he replied “I bought a new set” I promise this was not out of spite I played with swift many times after our fight without any problems. Furthermore I was afk when I got the tangoes and I didn’t even know swift was the one who gave them to me when I came back. The reason I dropped the tangoes and picked it back up was because when an ally gives u a heal you have to repick it up or it doesn’t allow you to click it. I rly do not care to steal tangoes I only need 1 at start of the game not an entire set, I apologize if it looked like it was done purposely but I can not admit that it was because I know my intentions and I promise it was because I didn’t see he asked for it back the first time, I was tabbed into discord looking at who’s watching my stream I believe.

              Secondly, I was not griefing, I just realized after review I played like trash. I was super excited to play voker and wanted to showcase it, I always try hard to win and get good kda, so yea I did have a lot of misplays. I watched when I could have tpd for swift but I don’t remember what was going thru my mind at the moment i surely cud have tpd sooner, but again this was just lack of attention and misplay it was nothing to do with griefing. I accept all my fault in my gameplay being poor but I do not admit to griefing and trolling swift because I really did not intend to do this. I was also just trying not to type because usually boba and supnub always banter me during games so I didn’t think much of it at the time, it wasn’t done to ignore team. At the time I thought it was a good idea to farm and just get a euls before fighting, which u can see I joined fights after euls. But this was my fault because clearly I didn’t have time to wait for euls. I thought if I had this item I can combo tinker to death but they snowballed and ended rly fast so my strategy went down the drain. In the end it was me trying to do what I thought was good for the game and team but realizing after it was just a shitty way of playing and I have to change that next time.

              #12264
              Shadow
              Participant

                Further more to this, I had no reason to grief. My captain gave me the hero/lane I wanted as well as supnub was kind to also vouch for my hero. I didn’t excessively die or get pwned in my lane, My game was goin well it would be really rude to grief after getting what I wanted. I also had my stream up in public for any audience to watch and I did think admins would watch the game, so trolling swift and refusing to help team purposely wouldn’t be a smart idea knowing I would get banned which is what I try to avoid. I want another chance at showing I can play with team more and make better plays. I will do whatever it takes to be a good player for fbg.

                #12272
                Fantom
                Moderator

                  Sigh, sadly you once again do not own up to things even when it is in chatlogs and proven to contradict your story. This is less about the questionable timing of your ganks, teamplay, and otherwise solo playstyle. The more egregious part of your ban is the behavior and grudge you hold towards swift. You repeatedly deny that you saw him ask, and that you were afk. Yet in chatlogs we have proof of this not being true.

                  06:48 Allies Shadow ?
                  06:49 All swifttarrow when you back
                  06:49 Allies Shadow when did i say
                  06:50 Allies Shadow i was afk
                  06:53 All GB3 shadow ripping hte bong
                  06:57 Allies swifttarrow tangoes
                  06:57 Allies swifttarrow back
                  06:58 Allies swifttarrow plz
                  07:47 Allies Shadow u never asked for it back
                  07:48 Allies Shadow lmfao
                  07:50 Allies swifttarrow i did
                  07:51 Allies Shadow u always do this swift

                  We expect to see players own up to their mistakes and promise to do better, you do nothing of the sort in this appeal, and I thought you would have known better. Creating and holding grudges like this alienate you, and others in our league and ruin any sort of integrity we expect and demand.

                  Having said that, I am reducing your ban by 48h for nothing to do with this, but because you were helpful in recruiting. I hope you can take more accountability for your own actions in the future, and we avoid this altogether. It’s very annoying when you claim one thing and lie, and force our admins to waste their time reading chatlogs and watching replays to do otherwise.

                  Ban appeal denied, but thank you for recruiting and helping to grow FBG. 48h will be removed from the duration of your ban effective immediately.

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