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guy is…. im not even gonna try to find words, cause there are no words. game speaks for itself.
guy fighting creeps as lion on 3v1 lane, while we are fighting a clock nearby. guy was rightclicking a ballista, while his allies nearby dying to a clock that was a freekill if he just joined the fight. he also kept going near the clock to get comboed by him.
when he was getting hit by creeps he could easily turn right and go help me/us at the shop from the tree path, but guy ran almost to tower, then never came back to help me. guy manaburning creep instead of going to clock to disable him to help aa. he manadraining so long hes losing all his hp. why does he even use manaburn on a creep when hes only got 1 usable spell and has plenty mana for it?!
he also did ENTIRELY wrong spell build, even tho i alrdy sent him “how to skill spells as support”.
he also took my first kill even tho he couldve easily let me have it, not to mention him impaling the ground.i quickly lost the ability to concentrate, having to play with him, as it seemed my entire team did too, understandably.
i can literally go to ANY eu pub game RIGHT NOW and there will be 10 players better than sicario, so i cant quite grasp how hes still vouched.
his spell skilling in that lane alone should be enough for an unvouch, especially since I sent him the list of how to skill spells as support long ago.
if you cant even read and comprehend that, then how are you gonna improve?Ahh another misleading Teshin report… Sicario has been nothing short of an example of what we expect of our trials. He overcomes a great deal of flame without losing his head and running out the server, already showing he has the toughness and grit to be an fbg player. He is strong minded and doesn’t deflect flame with flame he instead even tries to understand how to do better which is a HUGE plus. He gets games going all the time and has become a core part of league with his activity. Not to mention i have seen Sicario’s support do amazing and break some games so clearly he has his heroes and games where he’s proven he can shine.
I hope the admins instead look at this report and give Teshin a ban for griefing/flaming. He completely stopped trying in the game, he even asked if he can ff early and leave. Even stated he is done playing the game … this is no way to act at all. Speaking of the death at secret shop that lion “didn’t help” in, why did Teshin go in anyways?? His AA already died in such a stupid way, and if reading saw lion move up with spec he obviously would just back to his tower.. lol., the only reason reading fought is because Teshin solo ran at him into his creep wave as well when he could have just farmed his lane and let clock run back. Then Teshin proceeds to DIVING readings courier into readings tower, and allows reading to finish him off with rocket missile. This was obvious grief so idk why he is blaming Sicsrio, just look at the laning phase urself and you can count how many mistakes AA and spec made as well. He wants to single out one trial for his own shitty gameplay and I won’t stand for that. Please ban Teshin for his behaviour (yes this is a report on forums). Thank you.
shadow youre so cringe lately, its unreal, you werent even in the game.
sicario clearly isnt improving and shows 0 interest in learning or improving. he was actually blaming others, not only in the game, but also in discord afterwards. he still to this moment has not taken any responsibility, but is pretending like he didnt do anything wrong.guy is 100% uncapable of learning, he cant even comprehend simple spell builds, not even after having played the same hero several times, hes still skilling wrong spells. there is literally no hope.
and yes, i lost all focus and motivation. it was literally impossible to stay focused after watching lion. at some point u cant expect people to stay focused and play well, if a griefer is on their lane playing worse than a t8 na easy mode pubber. that shit just drags everyone down with it.
Nothing wrong from the start (gets wards/normal items)
At 02:33, he was running in the woods but notices the ping to help kill clock: Looking at the kill moment scene a few times, don’t think it was intentional from Lion to finish the kill, cuz when he orders the attack clock wasn’t 1 hit away from death, so most likely a fuckup cuz spectre attacks first and he ends up killing
At 04:00 weird move.. He does attempt to help AA, but ends up taking heavy dmg under battery.
At 04:40 with the impale/mana drain.. unnecessary death, but also possible he expected AA/spectre to come help, instead of getting solo cogged + battery -> cw ends up dying tho
At 5:30 – he fucks up with the mana drain/impale, loses a lot of hp due to it, and is forced to back (no creeps around to pull aggro away, so either he backs or he dies – there’s a slim chance of him being able to aggro away with the ranged creep, and run back in with rly low hp.. but meh) – AA and spec die (spec death is stupid, he could have just backed out instead of following cw) -> Does look bad ngl
At 6.20 – He impales clock, but allows cw to battery and cog him, leading to another death (Spec moves away, so he ends up getting solo battery/cog)
At 9.50 – He knew they were all in woods (as team just ends up killed at seconds before that), so this death to akasha is bad
At 10:55 – Good indication of him actually trying: He coulnd’t avoid the death here (they dived tower with AA present too), and you can see him attempting to dodge them (avoiding the torrent as well)
At 12:10 – Not much to do: Jugger omnislash followed by bladespin (yasha + phase on jugger.. not getting away lol)
Replay review courtesy of Hyo and double checked by me.
His play was not good and I am sure he would admit that, but he really doesn’t talk much and I don’t blame him after reading the team chat. Literally no one on your team played well and that’s not on him and more likely due to a poorly balanced lobby after looking at the full distribution of players. If anything I am impressed that he didn’t engage in the insults hurled at him there was literally no constructive chat at all it just went immediately to blaming him and threatening an unvouch and you guys, not him, giving up on the game. You say you can’t concentrate because another player is making mistakes, but that is entirely up to you to fix for yourself not up to us to remove your distractions. I’ve heard far more people complain about your chat than about his gameplay so if someone is playing poorly I suggest that you just focus on you playing instead of their play. Your talk about finding better players in EU pubs is irrelevant because they don’t play inhouse. They aren’t playing the same style of game that we are and they aren’t playing against the players in the league in that setting so to say that they are better doesn’t really compare and if you think they could and should be in inhouse then please recruit them because we would be glad to have them. No one is obligated to read your spell skilling document regardless of whether you sent it to them or not. That would be what we call suggested reading and not mandatory guidelines even though it appears he has taken a look at it, but you can’t just expect immediate results in every situation. Also if you just tell him what he should be skilling then I’m sure he would listen as he has in the past. Saying that he is incapable of learning is completely wrong because I have watched his progress the whole season and he has definitely improved as I am sure most of the league would agree. He may have been at an unvouchable level when he first joined, but we have tracked his progress and no one has voted to unvouch him. We have however voted to keep him at trial level because he does still have things to learn, but unvouching him teaches him nothing and just removes the potential you don’t think he has. Just read your words and you should see that you are being hyperbolic over anecdotal evidence from your experience and not mentioning anything he has done well. For example, since the game which you posted this unvouch request he has gone 5-2 winning a game with you and one against you as well as winning one playing lion. If you are only going to look at games that you lose with him then you aren’t really doing your due diligence to make a fair assessment for whether or not he is worthy of an unvouch. In order to do my due diligence I am not only judging by what I have seen or just his successes, I have asked all the admins to weigh in on whether they think he is unvouch worth as well as some players. None of them have said that they would unvouch him if it was their decision. The claim that he took no responsibility and thinks he has done nothing wrong is not reflected in what I just read from him on discord. He clearly acknowledged that he made bad plays; his point is more that everyone played bad (which they did) and that his team gave up way too early (which they did). It appears that he was actually looking for advice and feedback from you on what he did and not trying to avoid accountability or shift the blame. Also on the topic of accountability why not just say you yourself played bad as well and instead say you couldn’t concentrate because he was playing bad? It really doesn’t make much sense to bring up the topic of accountability in this setting given that you yourself seem to be blaming an entire game on one player. Finally and this is the last time I am going to say this (probably not true) but you need to stop relentlessly giving players on your team grief over their performances during and after the game. You are only hurting your own credibility at this point and I am only saying this because I think you would both enjoy the game more and get better responses from those who you are trying to lead/help in the game. Looking at his raw data he is at 38/36 win/loss for 1039.7 elo with 2.4/7.6/9.2 KDR and is rank #27 so there are clearly games you have not been in or seen where he is playing at an acceptable level. This combined with the unanimous vote not to unvouch from admins and the generally positive reviews from other players leads me to believe he should not be unvouched. Request denied.
Another thing I noticed was demons did indeed flame him as you said he did and he will be banned for 1 day since his last incident was a warning.
05:35 Allies demons like
05:41 Allies demons next time i have to support with sicario
05:44 Allies demons i m gonna rageQuit
05:48 Allies demons guys is absolute dogshit
05:59 All demons If i have to support again with sacrio
06:03 All demons I ll leave
07:08 Allies demons fucking lion
07:11 Allies demons ruined our whole game
10:22 All demons U suck
10:24 All demons stfu 🙂Also a sidenote clarification of the rules since you asked in chat. Forfeits rule wise follow the same rules that are built into the game. If it is too early to forfeit legitimately your team cannot forfeit and you have to wait until 15 minutes.
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