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Your Warcraft III username: dpteacher
Violator’s Warcraft III username: TheLichKing
Violated Rule(s): Forcing sends , lieing, abusing rules regarding draw system as captain
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): See quotations
Additional Information:I dont know why but everytime I play with Wikarn he tries to micromanage hard like in this game. Its oftentimes not even very polite , he oftentimes gets passively agressive and I think this is a poor behavior from a LIHL Admin.
Every time I play with him in a game he tries to force the team / some individuals to do this and to do that not in a respectful way. I quote Kappas last announcement:Giving advice/opinions to other players on how they can better contribute to the game is acceptable as long as it is done in a respectful manner. […]
Do not provoke other players to purposely elicit a reaction from them. […]LIHL Players that flame FBG players will receive an extended ban duration and may have their FBG League permissions removed.[…]
Game 1 – Last replay.w3g
So in the game I suggested to send level 2 which would have been a HUGE goal since they had 3x EA and 1x nightsaber lane. He doesnt even argue and plays dictator by only saying “No” . In the last split second of the ending he then offensively solo called and forced to do king. One or two guys even missed the call, in fact, there was no agreement on the call whatsoever. I wouldnt report this ifa) it happened for the first time.
b) he wasnt a LIHL Admin which should be very concerned about bringing positivity into the community.Also he just lied and bullied me in front of the team. He said I play Komodo for free which was just not true. Some quotations:
02:59 Allies TheLichKing u dont play trident on free
03:38 Allies TheLichKing no
03:48 Allies TheLichKing go king
04:10 Allies TheLichKing why u playing komodo on free?
04:35 Allies TheLichKing u can blame greenI also covered level 2 pretty good with Komodos , had a pretty good yolo game and I could nearly clear their level 15 send too.
Game 2 – FBG LTD7.w3g
https://wc3stats.com/games/187724/chatIn that game he bullies me for “crying all game” (53:48) , even in /all chat in a game where we fail send 3 times, enemy then dc’d after the last failsend from us and a clear win the enemy team. He (and Alan Rayne) refused to sell in a clear lost game.
At 43:32 he said ‘op clear any level’ but leaked later levels nearly without send even. Just a poor behaviour to not sell this.36:23 Allies TheLichKing cuz u stay 3/0 til 7 and this game goes after 20?
40:34 Allies TheLichKing its the virus effect
40:42 Allies TheLichKing u dont wanna lose bcs its because of you
40:50 Allies TheLichKing and u dont wanna win because its not because of you
43:07 Allies TheLichKing my lane is op
53:48 All TheLichKing dp teacher crying all game cuz he 3/0 til 7 and its going lategame
55:40 All TheLichKing we can let dpteacher leave and we play onHey,
Game 1 – You suggest sending level 2, wikarn says no and calls king and team follows. While it is a forceful call nobody seems to disagree with it. About the “lying” he clearly thinks you’re still on free and you do not bother to reply that you have already rolled.
Game 2 – You complain about wanting to draw and wikarn calls you out for it, I do not see him breaking any rule with his words.
Request denied.
I wanna let this case review by another admin. It was an obvious force call the team had no choice to react in 0.1 seconds to write ” no ” or something else in chat. How can you ignore this?
While it is a forceful call nobody seems to disagree with it.
I was against it but I had no chance to discuss. In other situations like this players get banned because its a clear rulebreak. If this is the standard, I will remind me every game that forcing sends in the last split second is a legit way of taking the control of the game and the team
game 1
what is this cry?wikarn is most of the times caller and no one says somthing about it.
everybody knows this.you seriously wanna report him cuz you guys didnt go lvl 2, thats all u wanna do.
and not (force call)..ur searching for things to get him banned.
game 2
i dont see any bully, all i see is that u want to draw that game, but your team dont want to.
stop waste time of admins EVEN for a second review, cant you clearly see what a BS brq this is?
wikarn is most of the times caller and no one says somthing about it.
everybody knows this.No i dont know this and I dont accept this except the team decides that Wikarn is the captain. There hasnt been any agreement on the fact that Wikarn is Captain, therefore , he cant act like one.
If I would have done the same and just sent a furb I would have been banned for sure. So how can it be fair that a LIHL Admin decides to take over controll of everything without letting the option for the team to decide which call is the best? He cant say “do king” in the last second. Its not an acceptable behaviour from any member at this community, especially not a acceptable behaviour from a LIHL Admin. He should act like a perfect example and not break rules in front of others because he claimed himself once again a captain.
1st of all, we cant send 2 cuz they are all fast. 2nd of all we have 2 holders and you are staying 2/0 with komodo which to me seems like you’re going holder. 3rd of all we can already cover level 2 very easy and we dont wanna feed the guy with the worst roll on our team(you). Im not doing anything to tk and im doing the best possible call for the team that im aware of. Every single game i let you kc and i always take suggestions from teammates about calls. If i know its a bad call i wont do it.
You have 2 lanes with 2/0 push, 1 lane with 1/0 and you want to send 2 into fast attack speed? Ea lanes and NS lane eat 2 send or full clear – they will have 1 mid for sure, most likely 2 because you send 1 whelp 2 furbs and 2 spirits. Orange said he need king or send, so after the 2 send was denied, Wikarn up king because orange need king gold to reach the 3 privs. How is that forced call?
After reviewing:
Game 1:
-> Wikarn stated that playing komodo on free was a bad idea, and his comment on “you can blame green” was cause orange stated he was gonna go holder, but he noticed 3 ob: You could have mentioned you weren’t playing komodo on free, and also inform orange you dind’t intend to ob either – which speaks for your communication this game: I mean, you’re complaining about allies communication, when you coulnd’t even communicate your plan since the start.
-> Orange said he needed send or king: You wanted to send 2, Wikarn said no and the remaining 2 dind’t have time to discuss, however in this case, its a single instance with low impact, and orange needed the gold, so it was either discuss and miss income, or go king and get the income – Seems like an easy choice
Game 2:
You wanted to draw since early game, and later on you’re called out for wanting to draw – In fact, your chat wasn’t any perfect either, so i wonder why you dind’t quote your chat along with Wikarn’s.
tl;dr i agree with Egillth decision here
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