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May 9, 2023 at 5:47 pm #21090
Your Warcraft III username: Matt
Violator’s Warcraft III username: Shadow
Violated Rule(s): toxic, refusing to support
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): LMK if you need time stamps
Additional Information: shadow was upset that i didnt give him mid. The guy always thinks i’m out to get him and thinks i’m griefing him whjen i dont give him what he wants. I assigned him to support, and he hardly supported this game. He had good KDA that game, but the majority of the kills were just cleanups. He was afraid to sacrifice himself as a pos 4 for our pos 1 on many different occasions. This was exactly like his venge game last night, where he was pos 4 or 5 and went full on carry items. The guy refuses to play the game when captains refuse to give him the heroes he wants. He justifies it by pointing fingers and saying we’re griefing him, when it all just stems from selfishness.Attachments:
May 9, 2023 at 5:54 pm #21092i played better than him the entire game, Ganked, made plays, was huge as a pos4. Solo killed their core and was the only reason we lasted long. I didnt ks anything i just used my spells and autoattacks. Watch the whole replay literally nothing there to prove i was griefing… pez was griefing he ends up 4/14 with thrall mid. This a joke report for a guy whos upset that i was actually havign a good game.
May 9, 2023 at 6:02 pm #21093threw myself into deaths to save ppl multiple times, had 10 more team paritcipation than pez as well, was literlaly me and pancea doing so much work. If anyone thinsk this is grief they crazy. I played a great bara. Idk any other bara build than this. This isnt a carry bara build this is tanky frontliner build. What am i supposed to buy as a bara??? forcestaff? glimmer? do those seem like good bara items? no. My items kept us in the game. Just watch the replay foreal and see how much work i put in to help us win.
May 10, 2023 at 8:19 pm #21101So this is a first as far as reviews because there was an update between the reported game and now which made all previous replays obsolete and unable to be viewed. However, I watched the game in question from both perspectives live on stream and saw enough to make a judgement call in conjunction with the end game stats, particularly ward count, and the chatlog. I also witnessed the exact same issue in a game the previous night, but because it was won there was no report made. In the reported game shadow was assigned bara and was not happy about that which is evident in the chatlog and assuming the things you said and did early in the game as deliberately trying to provoke him is a reach at best. He knew he was clearly pos 4 and refused to ward and help in the ways that are expected of a pos 4 getting only 5 wards in a nearly 60 minute game and opting to farm carry items and generally playing selfishly. Missing team fights for farm and refusing to join potentially lost fights in order to not die; this does not amount to griefing, but most definitely falls in line with refusing to support which is what this request is for as well as what happened in the game the previous night. For reference in the other game shadow was assigned pos 4 venge and bought 4 wards in a 40 minute game and rushed a carry build solo farming for most of the game going phase, sny, lance, shard in that order. His team was asking for him to stop farming and come help the team repeatedly, but they had the game won without him so it had little impact.
Since shadow has decided to try to defend himself/attack the reporter in this post I will address some of those points. “i played better than him the entire game, Ganked, made plays, was huge as a pos4. Solo killed their core and was the only reason we lasted long”. Everyone knows stats lines do not tell a full picture of what happened in a game however the noticeable lack of wards are clear cut given the length of the game. Ganking when you feel like you are ready instead of when the team needs you is not the same thing.
“I didnt ks anything i just used my spells and autoattacks. Watch the whole replay literally nothing there to prove i was griefing… pez was griefing he ends up 4/14 with thrall mid. This a joke report for a guy whos upset that i was actually havign a good game.” No one said you were ksing anything simply that you were cleaning up the kills and sometimes that was because you showed up late when it was most advantageous for you and not the team. Also this report isn’t for griefing it’s for a refusal to support and toxic behavior both of which are very clear. The fact that you think this is about you having a “good game” displays the clear selfishness evident in the gameplay.
“threw myself into deaths to save ppl multiple times, had 10 more team paritcipation than pez as well, was literlaly me and pancea doing so much work. If anyone thinsk this is grief they crazy. I played a great bara. Idk any other bara build than this. This isnt a carry bara build this is tanky frontliner build. What am i supposed to buy as a bara??? forcestaff? glimmer? do those seem like good bara items? no.” Again stats do not paint the full picture and did you consider the disparity in team participation (which was 9 not 10, but fair enough) was because you were not doing your job as a support? Having deaths does not mean they were for the team either I witnessed multiple fights in which you were late and got kills after your teammates were dead because you were farming items. Speaking of items MoM is not really a “tanky frontliner build” and SNY and echo sabre are not support items which were gone first with urn which was a support item, but was sold the halberd and BKB are pretty standard and wards are always a good idea if you are support.
“My items kept us in the game.” The farming you did in order to get the items you got also contributed to why you lost the game and again is indicative of the selfish attitude you had throughout the game. I think the biggest factor that kept your team in the game was morphling being such a threat if he did not die instantly.
“Just watch the replay foreal and see how much work i put in to help us win.” You did not win the game.
Stats for the game being reported.
Winner: scourge, 57m, 52s
shadow#132219 15, 10, 13, 5 wardsStats for the venge game the night before.
Winner: sentinel, 40m, 30s
shadow#132219 5, 6, 12, 4 wardsChatlog below and attached screenshots of the builds.
03:38 Allies Shadow sf mid
03:45 Allies Matt l30
03:47 Allies Matt what hero do u play here
03:57 Allies xL30sk AA?
04:00 Allies Matt ok sure
05:04 Allies Shadow sf plz
05:07 Allies Matt im thrall mid
05:11 Allies Matt what support do u want
05:12 Allies Matt sahdow
05:15 Allies Shadow wow
05:21 Allies Matt pana
05:22 Allies Shadow hate this guy foreal
05:24 Allies Matt what carry u want?
05:27 Allies Panacea idc
05:39 Allies Shadow i want weaver supp
05:40 Allies Panacea morph better
05:44 Allies Shadow i like weaver pos 4
05:45 Allies Shadow or tiny pos 4
06:01 Allies Shadow weaver/tiny/sd/potm
06:02 Allies Shadow supp
06:14 Allies Shadow weaver gogo
06:18 Allies Matt ur sb shadow
06:23 Allies Shadow ur afag
06:25 Allies Matt necro safealen
06:25 Allies Shadow is all u are
06:26 Allies Shadow bro
06:37 Allies Shadow asks me wat supp
06:39 Allies Shadow i tell him 4
06:43 Allies Shadow still cant accomadate
06:47 Allies Matt give me tangos shadow
06:47 Allies Matt ty
07:06 Allies Matt its 3 top
07:08 Allies Matt necro safelane
07:10 Allies Shadow now dont type me rest of game matt
07:26 Allies Matt sry my first two picks get priority
07:27 Allies Matt of core
07:27 Allies Matt sahdow
07:37 Allies Shadow its ok
07:42 Allies Shadow im not gonna be charging into death
08:22 Allies Shadow wat a tard
08:40 Allies Shadow get glimpse
08:40 Allies Shadow pez
08:41 Allies Shadow rn
08:53 Allies Shadow do u know
08:53 Allies xL30sk bro
08:54 Allies Shadow how to lvl 2
09:53 Allies xL30sk i speak
09:55 Allies xL30sk top full stun
12:17 Allies Matt u need
12:19 Allies Matt ur 3rd spell man
12:25 Allies Shadow its xl30
12:27 Allies Shadow wat do u expect
16:18 Allies Matt food mid
16:18 Allies Matt shadow
16:25 Allies Shadow u dont glimpse
16:31 Allies Shadow jus run up
16:32 Allies Shadow and glimpse
16:33 Allies Shadow him
16:45 All Shadow XD
16:59 Allies Matt yo shadow
17:04 Allies Matt im not going to get into any arguments with you this game
17:07 Allies Matt so stop trying to provoke
17:09 Allies Matt and be a grown ass man
17:13 Allies Matt my glimpse is lvl 1
17:16 Allies Matt i cant reach
17:21 Allies Shadow muted u kid
17:23 Allies Matt just charge mid and be humnan
20:30 Allies Shadow idk how u guys feed him
20:30 Allies Matt great
20:31 Allies Shadow so hard
20:33 Allies Shadow like jesus
20:43 Allies Shadow its always having to carry matt
20:51 Allies Matt shadow
20:52 Allies Matt one more word
20:55 Allies Matt and ur reported
21:01 Allies Shadow its always having to cary matt
21:02 Allies Matt ur being retarded for no reason
25:54 Allies Matt GA is down
26:27 Allies Matt can u
26:28 Allies Matt cahrge
26:30 Allies Shadow go
26:49 Allies Shadow dude
26:51 Allies Shadow what can i do
26:52 Allies Shadow w charge
26:54 Allies Shadow stop asking me to charge
27:11 Allies Shadow sigh
27:24 Allies Matt ur charging
27:25 Allies Matt a hero
27:29 Allies Matt that u can do nothing to
27:32 Allies Shadow smart moves matt
27:34 Allies Shadow keep begging for me to die
27:37 Allies Shadow so it makes u feel better
27:40 Allies Matt you’re rported
27:48 Allies Shadow good for u
30:37 Allies Matt how about
30:38 Allies Matt wards
30:39 Allies Matt and smoke
30:40 Allies Matt come on man
30:43 Allies Matt maps dark
30:49 Allies Shadow u keep suggesting to fight
30:51 Allies Shadow and we die
30:54 Allies Matt im suggesting u to charge heroes
30:57 Allies Matt its ur heroers est ability
30:58 Allies Shadow i did
30:59 Allies Shadow last 3 times
31:01 Allies Shadow and i died
31:04 Allies Matt u charged
31:05 Allies Shadow wat dont u get they together
31:13 Allies Shadow i charged solo tiny
31:27 Allies Matt idk i keep getting you these kills
31:54 Allies Matt mid almost dead
31:55 Allies Matt careful tlop
32:02 Allies Shadow i need bkb
32:03 Allies Shadow then we can
32:08 Allies Shadow go to their face
33:38 Allies Matt id
33:40 Allies Matt our pos 4
33:43 Allies Matt afraid to die
33:45 Allies Shadow wow
33:46 Allies Shadow panacea
33:54 Allies Shadow fuck this clown
33:57 Allies Shadow retarded sit
33:58 Allies Shadow shit
34:02 Allies Shadow killed a creep so i died
34:18 Allies Matt aegis ids down
34:54 Allies Shadow team
34:56 Allies Shadow pez
35:04 Allies Matt i just tp’d bot
35:04 Allies Matt man
35:07 Allies Matt ur all alone
35:07 Allies Matt ffs
35:12 Allies Matt rofl
36:08 Allies Matt blink on troll
36:16 Allies Matt can we smoke pls
36:53 Allies Shadow ?
36:58 Allies Shadow charge
36:59 Allies Shadow was cd
36:59 Allies Matt -gg
37:01 Allies Shadow u goon
37:14 Allies Matt why did i even pick u man i dont undersatnd
37:27 Allies Shadow idnoe
37:29 Allies Shadow u pick me
37:32 Allies Shadow get me random hero i never play
37:33 Allies Shadow then report me
37:33 Allies Matt u just troll me every game rofl
37:35 Allies Shadow remember i said that
37:37 Allies Matt you play this hero all the time
37:39 Allies Matt what the fuck are you saying
37:43 Allies Shadow yoou get mad whenever
37:46 Allies Shadow i dont die with team
37:49 Allies Shadow u wanted me
37:52 Allies Shadow to die with them top
37:54 Allies Shadow to make u happy
37:56 Allies Shadow cuz ur spiteful
38:01 Allies Shadow after u saw my charge cd
38:02 Allies Shadow and ult cd
38:04 Allies Shadow u still mass ping me
38:16 Allies Matt can we smoke
38:17 Allies Matt please
38:32 Allies Matt erroxo needs aghs on u
39:53 Allies Matt ??
40:00 Allies Shadow its called
40:01 Allies Shadow ctragg
40:03 Allies Shadow craggy
40:04 Allies Shadow exterior
40:10 Allies Matt i questioned him coming back
40:12 Allies Matt after we just kille d3
40:20 Allies Shadow im owning and u say
40:22 Allies Shadow i troll u
51:42 Allies Shadow im pos 2 and 3 now
51:44 Allies Shadow go ward guys
51:50 Allies Matt uve been 4 all game
51:51 Allies Matt and ur still 4
54:07 Allies Matt welp
54:08 Allies Matt they have wards
54:09 Allies Matt we dont
54:19 Allies Matt no bb on me
54:34 Allies xL30sk why u call fight 4v5??
54:41 Allies Matt idk ive been trying to smoke last 5 mins
54:42 Allies Shadow if u guys just went mid
54:43 Allies Shadow they had to back
54:44 Allies Matt cant get 5 people
54:46 Allies Matt sahdow you died solo top
54:50 Allies Matt you want us to push 4v5?
54:53 Allies Shadow i had bkb in 100
54:55 Allies Shadow i didnt know
54:55 Allies Shadow 5 come
54:56 Allies Shadow u said
54:57 Allies Matt you still died otp
54:57 Allies Shadow they were rosh
54:58 Allies Matt why
54:59 Allies Shadow thats why i died
55:00 Allies Matt you asking us to push mid
55:00 Allies Matt 4c5
55:02 Allies Shadow cuz u said
55:02 Allies Shadow they rosh
55:08 Allies Matt you too busy farming items
55:11 Allies Matt and it cost us game
55:20 Allies Shadow ?
55:21 Allies Shadow i kept us
55:22 Allies Shadow in this game
55:23 Allies Shadow jesus
55:24 Allies Shadow stfu matt
55:26 Allies Matt u ks’d
55:27 Allies Matt every game
55:28 Allies Matt rofl
55:28 Allies Shadow ur sodelusional
55:28 Allies Matt rofl
55:31 Allies Shadow ks how?
55:33 Allies Shadow i just hit ppl
55:35 Allies Shadow tf
55:53 Allies Matt just fight them
55:55 Allies Matt dude
55:56 Allies Matt go shadow
63:21 All Shadow Tomoya
63:25 All Shadow Pos 4’s putting in work
64:06 Allies Matt we hav aegis
64:16 Allies Matt charge
64:16 Allies Matt in
64:17 Allies Matt shadow
64:18 Allies Matt man
64:18 Allies Matt wtf
64:30 Allies Shadow sigh
64:31 Allies Shadow retards
64:33 Allies Shadow how tf
64:34 Allies Shadow can we
64:36 Allies Shadow kill them
64:43 Allies Matt its ok to diei for your pos 1
64:44 Allies Shadow keep listening to matt and i die
64:45 Allies Matt as a pos 4
64:49 Allies Matt who give as fuck if u die man
64:53 Allies Matt ur standing wathcing ur pos 1 die
64:54 Allies Shadow dude stop caring about who is wat pos
64:57 Allies Shadow i am more useful
64:57 Allies Shadow than u
64:59 Allies Matt it mtaters rofl
65:04 Allies Shadow he died anyways
65:07 Allies Shadow i cud havel ived
65:10 Allies Shadow now we both die
65:43 Allies Shadow gg
65:46 Allies Shadow goodjob
66:01 Allies Shadow nice
66:09 Allies Matt its wahtever gg
66:16 Allies Matt glad it ended in a shadow report at last
66:25 Allies Shadow go ahead idc lmao
66:28 Allies Shadow played better than all of u
66:38 Allies Matt its easy to do when you clean up kills and dont ward
66:41 Allies Matt gg
66:44 Allies Shadow i did ward moron
66:47 Allies Shadow i bought them for himShadow will be banned for 4 days for refusal to support and toxic behavior. Request approved.
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