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  • #21090
    stinkypez
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      Your Warcraft III username: Matt
      Violator’s Warcraft III username: Shadow
      Violated Rule(s): toxic, refusing to support
      Time of Violation (in-game or replay): LMK if you need time stamps
      Additional Information: shadow was upset that i didnt give him mid. The guy always thinks i’m out to get him and thinks i’m griefing him whjen i dont give him what he wants. I assigned him to support, and he hardly supported this game. He had good KDA that game, but the majority of the kills were just cleanups. He was afraid to sacrifice himself as a pos 4 for our pos 1 on many different occasions. This was exactly like his venge game last night, where he was pos 4 or 5 and went full on carry items. The guy refuses to play the game when captains refuse to give him the heroes he wants. He justifies it by pointing fingers and saying we’re griefing him, when it all just stems from selfishness.

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      #21092
      Shadow
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        i played better than him the entire game, Ganked, made plays, was huge as a pos4. Solo killed their core and was the only reason we lasted long. I didnt ks anything i just used my spells and autoattacks. Watch the whole replay literally nothing there to prove i was griefing… pez was griefing he ends up 4/14 with thrall mid. This a joke report for a guy whos upset that i was actually havign a good game.

        #21093
        Shadow
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          threw myself into deaths to save ppl multiple times, had 10 more team paritcipation than pez as well, was literlaly me and pancea doing so much work. If anyone thinsk this is grief they crazy. I played a great bara. Idk any other bara build than this. This isnt a carry bara build this is tanky frontliner build. What am i supposed to buy as a bara??? forcestaff? glimmer? do those seem like good bara items? no. My items kept us in the game. Just watch the replay foreal and see how much work i put in to help us win.

          #21101
          MustardTiger
          Moderator

            So this is a first as far as reviews because there was an update between the reported game and now which made all previous replays obsolete and unable to be viewed. However, I watched the game in question from both perspectives live on stream and saw enough to make a judgement call in conjunction with the end game stats, particularly ward count, and the chatlog. I also witnessed the exact same issue in a game the previous night, but because it was won there was no report made. In the reported game shadow was assigned bara and was not happy about that which is evident in the chatlog and assuming the things you said and did early in the game as deliberately trying to provoke him is a reach at best. He knew he was clearly pos 4 and refused to ward and help in the ways that are expected of a pos 4 getting only 5 wards in a nearly 60 minute game and opting to farm carry items and generally playing selfishly. Missing team fights for farm and refusing to join potentially lost fights in order to not die; this does not amount to griefing, but most definitely falls in line with refusing to support which is what this request is for as well as what happened in the game the previous night. For reference in the other game shadow was assigned pos 4 venge and bought 4 wards in a 40 minute game and rushed a carry build solo farming for most of the game going phase, sny, lance, shard in that order. His team was asking for him to stop farming and come help the team repeatedly, but they had the game won without him so it had little impact.

            Since shadow has decided to try to defend himself/attack the reporter in this post I will address some of those points. “i played better than him the entire game, Ganked, made plays, was huge as a pos4. Solo killed their core and was the only reason we lasted long”. Everyone knows stats lines do not tell a full picture of what happened in a game however the noticeable lack of wards are clear cut given the length of the game. Ganking when you feel like you are ready instead of when the team needs you is not the same thing.

            “I didnt ks anything i just used my spells and autoattacks. Watch the whole replay literally nothing there to prove i was griefing… pez was griefing he ends up 4/14 with thrall mid. This a joke report for a guy whos upset that i was actually havign a good game.” No one said you were ksing anything simply that you were cleaning up the kills and sometimes that was because you showed up late when it was most advantageous for you and not the team. Also this report isn’t for griefing it’s for a refusal to support and toxic behavior both of which are very clear. The fact that you think this is about you having a “good game” displays the clear selfishness evident in the gameplay.

            “threw myself into deaths to save ppl multiple times, had 10 more team paritcipation than pez as well, was literlaly me and pancea doing so much work. If anyone thinsk this is grief they crazy. I played a great bara. Idk any other bara build than this. This isnt a carry bara build this is tanky frontliner build. What am i supposed to buy as a bara??? forcestaff? glimmer? do those seem like good bara items? no.” Again stats do not paint the full picture and did you consider the disparity in team participation (which was 9 not 10, but fair enough) was because you were not doing your job as a support? Having deaths does not mean they were for the team either I witnessed multiple fights in which you were late and got kills after your teammates were dead because you were farming items. Speaking of items MoM is not really a “tanky frontliner build” and SNY and echo sabre are not support items which were gone first with urn which was a support item, but was sold the halberd and BKB are pretty standard and wards are always a good idea if you are support.

            “My items kept us in the game.” The farming you did in order to get the items you got also contributed to why you lost the game and again is indicative of the selfish attitude you had throughout the game. I think the biggest factor that kept your team in the game was morphling being such a threat if he did not die instantly.

            “Just watch the replay foreal and see how much work i put in to help us win.” You did not win the game.

            Stats for the game being reported.

            Winner: scourge, 57m, 52s
            shadow#132219 15, 10, 13, 5 wards

            Stats for the venge game the night before.

            Winner: sentinel, 40m, 30s
            shadow#132219 5, 6, 12, 4 wards

            Chatlog below and attached screenshots of the builds.

            03:38 Allies Shadow sf mid
            03:45 Allies Matt l30
            03:47 Allies Matt what hero do u play here
            03:57 Allies xL30sk AA?
            04:00 Allies Matt ok sure
            05:04 Allies Shadow sf plz
            05:07 Allies Matt im thrall mid
            05:11 Allies Matt what support do u want
            05:12 Allies Matt sahdow
            05:15 Allies Shadow wow
            05:21 Allies Matt pana
            05:22 Allies Shadow hate this guy foreal
            05:24 Allies Matt what carry u want?
            05:27 Allies Panacea idc
            05:39 Allies Shadow i want weaver supp
            05:40 Allies Panacea morph better
            05:44 Allies Shadow i like weaver pos 4
            05:45 Allies Shadow or tiny pos 4
            06:01 Allies Shadow weaver/tiny/sd/potm
            06:02 Allies Shadow supp
            06:14 Allies Shadow weaver gogo
            06:18 Allies Matt ur sb shadow
            06:23 Allies Shadow ur afag
            06:25 Allies Matt necro safealen
            06:25 Allies Shadow is all u are
            06:26 Allies Shadow bro
            06:37 Allies Shadow asks me wat supp
            06:39 Allies Shadow i tell him 4
            06:43 Allies Shadow still cant accomadate
            06:47 Allies Matt give me tangos shadow
            06:47 Allies Matt ty
            07:06 Allies Matt its 3 top
            07:08 Allies Matt necro safelane
            07:10 Allies Shadow now dont type me rest of game matt
            07:26 Allies Matt sry my first two picks get priority
            07:27 Allies Matt of core
            07:27 Allies Matt sahdow
            07:37 Allies Shadow its ok
            07:42 Allies Shadow im not gonna be charging into death
            08:22 Allies Shadow wat a tard
            08:40 Allies Shadow get glimpse
            08:40 Allies Shadow pez
            08:41 Allies Shadow rn
            08:53 Allies Shadow do u know
            08:53 Allies xL30sk bro
            08:54 Allies Shadow how to lvl 2
            09:53 Allies xL30sk i speak
            09:55 Allies xL30sk top full stun
            12:17 Allies Matt u need
            12:19 Allies Matt ur 3rd spell man
            12:25 Allies Shadow its xl30
            12:27 Allies Shadow wat do u expect
            16:18 Allies Matt food mid
            16:18 Allies Matt shadow
            16:25 Allies Shadow u dont glimpse
            16:31 Allies Shadow jus run up
            16:32 Allies Shadow and glimpse
            16:33 Allies Shadow him
            16:45 All Shadow XD
            16:59 Allies Matt yo shadow
            17:04 Allies Matt im not going to get into any arguments with you this game
            17:07 Allies Matt so stop trying to provoke
            17:09 Allies Matt and be a grown ass man
            17:13 Allies Matt my glimpse is lvl 1
            17:16 Allies Matt i cant reach
            17:21 Allies Shadow muted u kid
            17:23 Allies Matt just charge mid and be humnan
            20:30 Allies Shadow idk how u guys feed him
            20:30 Allies Matt great
            20:31 Allies Shadow so hard
            20:33 Allies Shadow like jesus
            20:43 Allies Shadow its always having to carry matt
            20:51 Allies Matt shadow
            20:52 Allies Matt one more word
            20:55 Allies Matt and ur reported
            21:01 Allies Shadow its always having to cary matt
            21:02 Allies Matt ur being retarded for no reason
            25:54 Allies Matt GA is down
            26:27 Allies Matt can u
            26:28 Allies Matt cahrge
            26:30 Allies Shadow go
            26:49 Allies Shadow dude
            26:51 Allies Shadow what can i do
            26:52 Allies Shadow w charge
            26:54 Allies Shadow stop asking me to charge
            27:11 Allies Shadow sigh
            27:24 Allies Matt ur charging
            27:25 Allies Matt a hero
            27:29 Allies Matt that u can do nothing to
            27:32 Allies Shadow smart moves matt
            27:34 Allies Shadow keep begging for me to die
            27:37 Allies Shadow so it makes u feel better
            27:40 Allies Matt you’re rported
            27:48 Allies Shadow good for u
            30:37 Allies Matt how about
            30:38 Allies Matt wards
            30:39 Allies Matt and smoke
            30:40 Allies Matt come on man
            30:43 Allies Matt maps dark
            30:49 Allies Shadow u keep suggesting to fight
            30:51 Allies Shadow and we die
            30:54 Allies Matt im suggesting u to charge heroes
            30:57 Allies Matt its ur heroers est ability
            30:58 Allies Shadow i did
            30:59 Allies Shadow last 3 times
            31:01 Allies Shadow and i died
            31:04 Allies Matt u charged
            31:05 Allies Shadow wat dont u get they together
            31:13 Allies Shadow i charged solo tiny
            31:27 Allies Matt idk i keep getting you these kills
            31:54 Allies Matt mid almost dead
            31:55 Allies Matt careful tlop
            32:02 Allies Shadow i need bkb
            32:03 Allies Shadow then we can
            32:08 Allies Shadow go to their face
            33:38 Allies Matt id
            33:40 Allies Matt our pos 4
            33:43 Allies Matt afraid to die
            33:45 Allies Shadow wow
            33:46 Allies Shadow panacea
            33:54 Allies Shadow fuck this clown
            33:57 Allies Shadow retarded sit
            33:58 Allies Shadow shit
            34:02 Allies Shadow killed a creep so i died
            34:18 Allies Matt aegis ids down
            34:54 Allies Shadow team
            34:56 Allies Shadow pez
            35:04 Allies Matt i just tp’d bot
            35:04 Allies Matt man
            35:07 Allies Matt ur all alone
            35:07 Allies Matt ffs
            35:12 Allies Matt rofl
            36:08 Allies Matt blink on troll
            36:16 Allies Matt can we smoke pls
            36:53 Allies Shadow ?
            36:58 Allies Shadow charge
            36:59 Allies Shadow was cd
            36:59 Allies Matt -gg
            37:01 Allies Shadow u goon
            37:14 Allies Matt why did i even pick u man i dont undersatnd
            37:27 Allies Shadow idnoe
            37:29 Allies Shadow u pick me
            37:32 Allies Shadow get me random hero i never play
            37:33 Allies Shadow then report me
            37:33 Allies Matt u just troll me every game rofl
            37:35 Allies Shadow remember i said that
            37:37 Allies Matt you play this hero all the time
            37:39 Allies Matt what the fuck are you saying
            37:43 Allies Shadow yoou get mad whenever
            37:46 Allies Shadow i dont die with team
            37:49 Allies Shadow u wanted me
            37:52 Allies Shadow to die with them top
            37:54 Allies Shadow to make u happy
            37:56 Allies Shadow cuz ur spiteful
            38:01 Allies Shadow after u saw my charge cd
            38:02 Allies Shadow and ult cd
            38:04 Allies Shadow u still mass ping me
            38:16 Allies Matt can we smoke
            38:17 Allies Matt please
            38:32 Allies Matt erroxo needs aghs on u
            39:53 Allies Matt ??
            40:00 Allies Shadow its called
            40:01 Allies Shadow ctragg
            40:03 Allies Shadow craggy
            40:04 Allies Shadow exterior
            40:10 Allies Matt i questioned him coming back
            40:12 Allies Matt after we just kille d3
            40:20 Allies Shadow im owning and u say
            40:22 Allies Shadow i troll u
            51:42 Allies Shadow im pos 2 and 3 now
            51:44 Allies Shadow go ward guys
            51:50 Allies Matt uve been 4 all game
            51:51 Allies Matt and ur still 4
            54:07 Allies Matt welp
            54:08 Allies Matt they have wards
            54:09 Allies Matt we dont
            54:19 Allies Matt no bb on me
            54:34 Allies xL30sk why u call fight 4v5??
            54:41 Allies Matt idk ive been trying to smoke last 5 mins
            54:42 Allies Shadow if u guys just went mid
            54:43 Allies Shadow they had to back
            54:44 Allies Matt cant get 5 people
            54:46 Allies Matt sahdow you died solo top
            54:50 Allies Matt you want us to push 4v5?
            54:53 Allies Shadow i had bkb in 100
            54:55 Allies Shadow i didnt know
            54:55 Allies Shadow 5 come
            54:56 Allies Shadow u said
            54:57 Allies Matt you still died otp
            54:57 Allies Shadow they were rosh
            54:58 Allies Matt why
            54:59 Allies Shadow thats why i died
            55:00 Allies Matt you asking us to push mid
            55:00 Allies Matt 4c5
            55:02 Allies Shadow cuz u said
            55:02 Allies Shadow they rosh
            55:08 Allies Matt you too busy farming items
            55:11 Allies Matt and it cost us game
            55:20 Allies Shadow ?
            55:21 Allies Shadow i kept us
            55:22 Allies Shadow in this game
            55:23 Allies Shadow jesus
            55:24 Allies Shadow stfu matt
            55:26 Allies Matt u ks’d
            55:27 Allies Matt every game
            55:28 Allies Matt rofl
            55:28 Allies Shadow ur sodelusional
            55:28 Allies Matt rofl
            55:31 Allies Shadow ks how?
            55:33 Allies Shadow i just hit ppl
            55:35 Allies Shadow tf
            55:53 Allies Matt just fight them
            55:55 Allies Matt dude
            55:56 Allies Matt go shadow
            63:21 All Shadow Tomoya
            63:25 All Shadow Pos 4’s putting in work
            64:06 Allies Matt we hav aegis
            64:16 Allies Matt charge
            64:16 Allies Matt in
            64:17 Allies Matt shadow
            64:18 Allies Matt man
            64:18 Allies Matt wtf
            64:30 Allies Shadow sigh
            64:31 Allies Shadow retards
            64:33 Allies Shadow how tf
            64:34 Allies Shadow can we
            64:36 Allies Shadow kill them
            64:43 Allies Matt its ok to diei for your pos 1
            64:44 Allies Shadow keep listening to matt and i die
            64:45 Allies Matt as a pos 4
            64:49 Allies Matt who give as fuck if u die man
            64:53 Allies Matt ur standing wathcing ur pos 1 die
            64:54 Allies Shadow dude stop caring about who is wat pos
            64:57 Allies Shadow i am more useful
            64:57 Allies Shadow than u
            64:59 Allies Matt it mtaters rofl
            65:04 Allies Shadow he died anyways
            65:07 Allies Shadow i cud havel ived
            65:10 Allies Shadow now we both die
            65:43 Allies Shadow gg
            65:46 Allies Shadow goodjob
            66:01 Allies Shadow nice
            66:09 Allies Matt its wahtever gg
            66:16 Allies Matt glad it ended in a shadow report at last
            66:25 Allies Shadow go ahead idc lmao
            66:28 Allies Shadow played better than all of u
            66:38 Allies Matt its easy to do when you clean up kills and dont ward
            66:41 Allies Matt gg
            66:44 Allies Shadow i did ward moron
            66:47 Allies Shadow i bought them for him

            Shadow will be banned for 4 days for refusal to support and toxic behavior. Request approved.

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