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saywhen wrote:

Good day sir! You have found a little series to check on heroes. There are a lot of them, namely 112 in our Dota 1 version, 114 in RGC, and 122 in Dota 2. I want to suggest some builds for the heroes and discuss them.

Here is a list of all the heroes.
1 Abadon
2 Alchemist
3 AA
4 Am
5 Arc
6 Axe
7 Bane
8 Bat
9 Beast
10 BS
11 BH
12 Brewmaster
13 Bristleback
14 Broodmother
15 Centaur
16 CK
17 Chen
18 Clinkz
19 Clockwerk
20 CM
21 Darkseer
(Dark Willow) (22)
(Dawnbreaker) (23)
22 Dazle
23 Death Prophet
24 Disruptor
25 Doom
26 Dragon Knight
27 Drow
28 Earth Spirit
29 Earth Shaker
30 Elder Titan (TC)
31 Ember
32 Enchantresa
33 Enigma
34 Faceless Void
35 Gyrocopter
(Hoodwink) (39)
36 Huskar
37 Invoker
38 Huskar
39 Jakiro
40 Juggernaut
41 Keeper of the light
42 Captain Kunkka
43 Legion Commander
44 Leshrac
45 Lich
46 Naix
47 Lina
48 Lion
49 Lone Druid
50 Luna
51 Lycanthrope
52 Magnus
(Marcie) (57)
(Mars) (58)
53 Medusa
54 Meepo
55 Mirana
(Monkey King) (62)
56 Morphling
57 Naga Siren
58 Nature’s Prophet
59 Necrophos
60 Night Stalker
61 Nyx
62 Ogre
63 Omniknight
64 Oracle
65 Obsidian Destroyer
(Pangolier) (73)
66 Phantom Assassin
67 Phantom Lancer
68 Phoenix
69 Puck
70 Pudge
71 Pugna
72 Queen of Pain
73 Razor
74 Rikimaru
75 Rubick
76 Sand King
77 Shadow Demo
78 Shadow Fiend
79 Shadow Shaman
80 Silencer
81 Skywrath Mage
82 Sladar
83 Slark
84 Sniper
85 Spectre
(Snapfire) (92)
86 Spirit Breaker
87 Storm
88 Sven
89 Techies
90 Templar Assassin
91 Terrorblade
92 Tidehunter
93 Timbersaw
94 Tinker
95 Tiny
96 Treant Protector
97 Troll
98 Tuskarr
99 Underlord (Pitlord)
100 Undying
101 Ursa
102 Vengeful Spirit
103 Venomancer
104 Viper
105 Visage
(Void Spirit) (115)
106 Warlock
107 Weaver
108 Warlock
109 Winter Wyvern
110 Witch Doctor
111 Wraith King
112 Zeus

The guides will recommend:
Starter items
Laning Phase items
First big core item
Then Dagger or more core items
End game build six slotted items

Furthermore they talk about:
Laning
Potential for Roshan
Strenghts in farming, pushing, killing, defending, supporting
Synergies & adversaries

Afterwards if people wish there will be feedback and discussion.

Finally a full summary shall include those as well.

Thanks for reading!

38 IO

[saywhen]

1 Abadon, Lord of Avernus
As Offlane, support or carry(pos 1,3,4,5)

Usually in pubs start with either
1. Stout, 2 branch, circlet, tango
Or
2. Ring, 3 branch, circlet, tango,
Depending on the hero’s armor. Heroes like doom or tiny start with 0 or 1 armor, so the damage reduction is only about 5% which you can easily upgrade to around 20% with the ring build.

On the lane get:
Magic wand
Poor men’a shield
Phase Boots
Maybe Urn

First big core item
Armlet

Then Dagger

Then for Hp you can get sanga and yasha

Then Echo Saber

Then basher or Satanic

End build
Phase boots/Travels 1 or 2
Armlet
Dagger
Sanga and yasha
Bloodthorn/Mkb
Satanic
Moonshard

If you have gold you can put refresher, butterfly on the courier

Some items can be disassembled sich as echo sabre for s&y and bloodthorn.

On the lane you can start with heal or shield as support depending on the situation or your judgement. If you are a core, you can start with shield or froatmourne depending on the situation or your judgement.
On a trilane 3vs1 you can get frostmourne as support too to bully the enemy solo offlaner.

Abadon hasn’t got the best tools for roshan. If you got good items you can kill it and most of the times give it to the team, sneakily when you have the security, or after some won teamfights.

He’s good at pushing with vlads, and supporting his team and tanking with his ult.

His friends are:
Lich, because both undead campain heroes
Huskar, axe, Slark, spectre

His enemies are:
Euls, od, shadow demon anything, silver edge – anything which negates his ult or break it.

Looking forward to opinions

[saywhen]

we unvouching animals now? damn

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[saywhen]

Player Name DOG
Discord Name IDK
Realm (North America/EU/Asia) EU
Preferred Role (Carry, Mid, Support) DECOY/TARZAN/DOG

Further information: Currently looking for any wild mikes, pandas(only legends), ppl who smoke and called smokers, AND paulines. (IF U ARENT THEM THEN DONT TEXT ME) (also idk if i can play so maybe i will be bank player)

[saywhen]

Lol

[saywhen]

Guys pls no ban boba… 🙁 Muesli is 10 times worse than cris, because he doesnt listen and cant follow instructions, i dont think he knows to ward and to actively defend they carry from the jakiro game i played with him. I didnt even flame him but i felt helpless with him in my team, it was kinda 4v5

I get it that u like nice ppl, if they can improve that would be great, but is there evidence that he improved? I think boba shouldnt flame so hard, if he calls ppl bad its ok, he also used a lot of time with reading to teach muesli in this game. They both used 10 minutes of their time to teach him and i dont know if muesli even tried. So there is a lot of frustration too in that 80 minutes game. Also boba seems rly depressed, I hope we can find a solution that doesnt ban boba forever…

[saywhen]

Sladar’s first death.
6:53 – KingKar’s sladar uses ulty on lemon’s bb.
(22-2 cs) (lvl 7) kingkar’s items: 2tps, gauntlet of str, pt on str
(32-3 cs) (lvl 7) evil.lemon’s items: qb, stout, ring of health, brown boots, tango
Seems alright, no kills fed, considering lemon is probably the better player as he’s a rather high mmr dota2 player and gets more competitive practice anyway. Pt seems alright, its a good item imo. Would have made stick or wand vs bb. They are also same level, which is great, considering this is a unvouch request.
1-2 kill stats, with scourge slightly leading I think. 2 death from sf, losing mid gonna hurt a lot. 1 kill for ant on let’s_go’s lich.
7:00 – KingKar ate 1 quilspray (or two), they will stack up, it’s a bristle. He sees bristle is ulted and can do much dmg with his stun.
7:05 – second quilspray, sladar runs off.
8:00 – sladar defended tower from big wave with siege creep. After gondar dmged him a bit ( 1 right click from ww), sladar tps to base.
8:43 – sladar is back on his lane, after he ran there. Bristle has venguard now and 1 level advantage. lvl 8 vs lvl 7.
8:56 – nvm they are both lvl 8 now.
9:05 – sladar ult, beginning to try a kill now, when bristle has venguard 😀
9:07 – eats first quilspray
9:11 – eats second quilspray, maning up on bb
9:14 – eats third quilspray, chasing a running pig with venguard LUL. bristleBACK loves taking it in the ass
9:18 – eats double quilspray, 4 and 5 i think as his stun procced the bb passive 😀
9:21 – sixth quilspray eaten, it was at this moment that kar realised that he fucked up. He turns around to run himself now, situation reversed.
9:25 – seventh quilspray, autohit from bb, and sladar dead. 172 (+235) gold fed

Sladar is one of ant’s and born’s better heroes. Maybe they should have played it and kar sky, idk. because sladar was their more important hero, as ant said. The difference is big between their sladars.

Kill stats are 2 – 5 at this point with scourge leading.

13:06 – he revived tped bot, got kills on supports on bot, then mid, then killed bb top and died again

All in all, cool rotation.

killed bb top again got dagger, good

killed lich solo mid

19:41 – got killed top with his team (counterinitiated ww ult with lina stun)

at this point it just looks bad for sentinel. 9-14 kill stats vs gondar, who gives his team mega much track gold

21:05 – he fed naix 1v1. trees is owning on naix with his mjolnir, killed ant too

21:27 – he’s pissed

28:45 – recap sentinel got few kills, roshed, lost aegis mid, killed naix, then kar died to lina
29:01 – boba gondar and smoker lina are owning them. Pick-off on sf and track gold

31:32 – recap sentinel lost everybody. sladar died, lina died, ant died, sf died(in this order). game’s almost over

34:00 – recap big kills from sentinel, lich pickoff, naix pickoff, gondar died. cumback israel. Only problem is that lina almost oneshots troll with laguna blade, actullay oneshotted troll’s aegis

34:32 – sladar got bkb on hero

35:40 – ant died, sf died, ant raging. I didn’t see the mistake, because I was fast forwarding, but I think ant got fucked by naix and lina. Naix with halbert survives long enough for lina to nuke ant down. Maybe ant was expecting kar to do something there. The mood is very bad atm

36:20 ant explains now that sladar is supposed to press r, ulting heroes i believe, being close and going in, doing his “one job”

36:40 – kar seems tilted and offended, chilling in base, inactivity

37:23 – recap boba played them hard.

42:40 – recap sentinel lost big teamfight on bottom lane highground. ant went on lina, who had massive lags and died because of that. team was going on bristle or something. ant died after killing lich too. Then most of sentinel died, brilste, gondar and naix are enough to destroy sentinel base.

Kar was expected to initiate, being called out for being “pussy”, not sure if being pussy is bannable but its fucking annoying, hate these pussies. Bear’s captain instruction was for kar to stick to ant, which he did a bit, he litterally blinked on ant during some skirmishes rofl

Then they lost, from what I saw this game, sladar did a lot what sladars do, until smoker kept one shotting ant, boba playing sentinel hard, trees doing a lot of dmg and evil lemon’s bristle being a reliable beast that game. It could have went better when born played his favourite hero sladar. His sf that game was a none-factor, at least that’s what he said I think and it looked to me as if ant was up against the world once again. My poor boy.

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I play 27th, it’s my birthday and good day to become best SF in the world Kappa

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welcome bro<3

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It’s true what he said I had same bug yesterday

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• This reply was modified 4 years, 7 months ago by saywhen.

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M4ster wrote:

Sorry for ruining the game for others but it wouldn’t even be a game, just a stomp and free elo for the ennemy.

Thanks for saving my elo, I already lost a game that day and I felt that game was a free game for the enemies, so losing once more like that would have been really hard

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