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Alright. I did a second review on this case per request of @okbik.
Overall I agree with Hyo, this is vastly as waste of everyones time. You two needs to settle this or simply dodge each others lobbies, if this keeps being a problem then we will issue bans. I do however admit that the message “u joke” from @rocknroll could be interpreted as a rock calling okbik a joke, which of course shouldn’t happen given your past history, so rocknroll please try the best to avoid such language and work with okbik. Both of you, should treat each other with respect, avoid the use of microaggressions etc. If you can’t work it out, simply dodge each other.
Have a nice day.
Okay, I’m gonna keep this short, because there is no need for a long discussion.
I reviewed both games, both the one from Juxx and the one from Mslove, and I was sad when I realized that your attitude haven’t been improved. If someone is forcesending, then report them and they will get punished. You should not try to threat people with unvouch, nor call anyone a retard like you did in the other game.
Considering Okbiks extensive history of flaming bans and warnings, I’m gonna ban okbik for 5 days for your flaming and attitude. Furthermore I will remind you, okbik, of this announcement, which means that there is a high chance of you receiving a 1 week ban for the next ban you receives.
As always you are welcome to appeal your ban, but I would prefer that you took a break, worked on your attitude, so we don’t have to deal with this anymore.
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Addendum: let’s check his BRQ and chat in detail:
https://wc3stats.com/games/108829/chatso at 19:01 he calls me a retard
False. Actual quote: “and not push /5 like a retard”. I did not call him a retard, it’s a figure of speech, I’ve just expressed contempt for the building choice. In fact if you scroll up you see that one of the first phrases I’ve said was “i’ll just ob like a retard”, am I flaming myself there?
he threatens me with unvouch for low skill
What actually happened:
19:37 Allies RockNRoll easy ban for flame
19:47 Allies okbik ez unvouch for low skill
So he threatens me first with a baseless ban but I can’t threaten him with unvouch back?I couldn’t even find anything else you could even remotely consider flame there. If you consider this ban-worthy then ban every FBG player, just no words for this.
Hi okbik,
I reviewed the game now and saw the following:
1) OJ expressed a wish to send with ghery,
2) Green didn’t say anything about sending or not sending and
3) He did call it 10 seconds before 6 started and didn’t send within the first 10 seconds, which leaves enough time for green to disagree.Because of this the ban request is denied.
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I reviewed the replay and 7 other replays by RockNRoll today.
This replay the attitude was not acceptable from RockNRoll and I hope you are able to see this. This is also the only replay I observed where the skill level was average or above the standard FBG player in my opinion.
Being below average skill wise is not problematic per se for the league, but the problem is that it is mixed with a really bad attitude and you are resistant to take feedback from your teammates and rejects it by calling it “micromanagement” even when it is not micromanagement.In games where you have obvious better skilled players (lihl players) you are still not taking their advice, you are still trying to countercall them all while you yourself are underperforming.
Based on that I have decided to unvouch RockNRoll for 7 days (168 hours from now). After 7 days you will become a trial again if you 1) get familiar with the guides in the academia channel (turret and ea at minimum) 2) observe 3 games in your time off and 3) improves your attitude.
Feel free to DM me if you got any questions about this decision or wants some feedback on the games. I will not be able to provide it tonight, because I spent a shit ton of time reviewing the games and I need to rewrite the notes to proper feedback for you.
Alright, you should have read the rules when you joined the league. Please get familiar with all the rules, not knowing the rules is not an excuse for violating them.
I am willing to unban you, since you already did sit out most of your ban and that you realize that your behavior wasn’t acceptable and won’t be tolerated in the future.
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Hey,
I review the replay and I got some comments for you OwnedByANub:OwnedByANub
Already at level one you told your teammates to “play their own lanes”, while your teammates shouldn’t micromanage every single move of yours, you should still be open to advice and communicate with your team about your plan for the game. By nature the game is very team-oriented, and if everyone “just play their own lane” then it would be horrible.This is irrelevant for the ban request, but I would personally have dropped a militia or two before re-rolling as well.
Niko, although OPs attitude was indeed questionable, you should know better than calling people “shitter” and “muppet”. Given your extensive history with flaming, I have to hand you a 72h ban and hope that you in future will improve your behavior.
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Hi,
I reviewed the replay, and I gotta say that I somehow agree with Chip, why are you reporting someone when you are obviously violating a rule yourself. You went AFK (and missed inc) without noticing your teammates, nor pausing, this a violation of our rules and I have to ban you 24h for that. Another time, please just let people know that you need a few minutes.
When that is being said, the language from chip wasn’t acceptable, you should refrain from calling people “retarded” and “mongoloids”, this time I will give Chip a warning but if we receive further reports about flaming, then bans will be applied.
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Hi eld3r,
I reviewed the game and while I understand your frustration with green and his performance, he didn’t intentionally ruin the game up until level 10, he was just not able to understand your reasoning. He was trying to argue about it and you should probably just have taken your time to explain your reasons more in-depth.
We have recently reached out to you and spoken with you about your behavior in FBG, with this in mind I am super disappointing to see you engage in flaming this hard. I will give you a 24H ban for this, if you doesn’t stop flaming like that, then you will face harsher penalties.
EricS did indeed not up the king at 10 and consider this as intentionally, this is gameruining and by no means acceptable. EricS will get a 72h ban.
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Hi,
I reviewed the game and while Solals ups wasnt needed for 7 (you were left with 4 heals after it) and that he did actually push during 9. He was indeed afk in the beginning of 10 (and forced purp to up with least lumber) and was afk at 12 for a significant time until pinged (and sent gargs, by mistake I assume).
The affect of the afk was quite insignificant, but it happened twice in a game, because of this Solal will be banned for 24h.
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Hi,
I reviewed your ban appeal and since you have taken the measures to prevent further DC’s (and 2 of the DC’s was within an hour) I will unban you. Let’s hope this solves the issue.
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Thanks for the report, I have looked into the case, I found the following swaps from yesterday night for Kraken/altQQ:
3.30 AM – Swapped Shambles in – No explanation for this provided, signed as last person.
6.16 AM – Swapped Dafuker in – No swap, no roll (Shambles wanted in).
7.34 AM – Swapped Queaternion in – Wanted to walk the dog, but signed as the *last* person.While you are welcome to get swapped once in while in case of an emergency, this is way too much. Kraken got swapped three times during one night, two of the games he signed as last person. Àll the games where Kraken got swapped, he had arguably the underdog team. Because of this, I will treat this case of a lobby dodge and hand out a 72h ban.
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