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Guard Yolo:
You drop Footman and Ranger and decide to RR level 1 which is fine since ts hold isn’t the best and blue decided to go holder with greyman. Also purp has already privateers so your team needs a yolo from you and teal. You roll into a mediocre roll with ts again and decide to play with footman with ranger which I like. While adding egg you go 3/0 push which is good since warriors were already covered by other lanes. I personally don’t like your choice of egg placement here since it doesnt cover the most damage as it should. Guard will always kinda run in front of it.
Both teams king it and you drop ToT and up Foot to Guard. Nothing special going on except a leak on level 3 from both teams. You decide to push 6/2 and place a ice troll for level 5. Your team thinks about sending 6 , you state correctly that your team doesnt have the greatest push and that the enemy ygg could ob. Looking at your teams lumber at this moment not sending into level 6 seemed like the better decision.
You go 7/2 for 6 and add another tot. I think this was a pretty good decision since you would have leaked without the second tot. You then go 7/4 and your team decides to send till income which is a good decision since enemy team has mola. Taking control of king you do a decent job, your team loses 2 heals, enemy team 1 which is kinda a nice trade since they had mola and your team is pretty well setup with some anti 10 units and tm. Nevertheless I think you did a small mistake here by not upping king while or after taking control of king. You left your king with low hp and 5reg, knowing your team will leak a lot on level 8 , needs to be recovered at level 10 and the fact you can need the extra income you could have invested 1-3 king ups. With taking king , naturally comes more responsibility for its health from my point of view.
Before level 8 you drop a ts. I like this decision since it gives you the most chances out of your roll to clear the most possible at lvl 8-9. You go 7/5 at 8, add another icetroll which was probably not needed but fine and hold level 9. You fullfill your pushing roll by going 7/7 before level 10 with no hold potential whatsoever which is clearly the best decision. Game looks to end level 14-15 because it’s a relatively fast game. So the best thing you could do is push heavily and let the other lanes carry.
At level 10 you leak a lot bosses and your team invested slightly too much wood on king since it was one heal anyway. Enemy team loses 2 heals leaving both teams with 1 heal for midgame. At this point of the game you have several options – pushing more and force leaks, trying to clear 14 or 15 as much as possible. I miss the discussion with your team wether it’s a 14 or 15 game, you placed more magic units even though you think it’s a 14 game.
At levels 11-13 you discuss and came to the conclusion that 14 is your best choice. Meanwhile you finally rerolled into SG , HB roll. Like I mentioned before , a little bit too late since you already dropped second ts. At level 13 you decide to sell the egg for no understandable reason and place a SG at the original place. I think that’s a mistake since egg still covers a bit of damage and all you want to achieve is that your sea giants live as long as possible when they potentially send 14. In front your sea giants take the most aggro and gets focused down. I think even though you have no holding potential its crucial for clearing the most of possible amount of units.
At level 14 you decide to upgrade both SG into Hydra. You commited your lane into a full magic lane which I can understand if you aim for a longer game with late game potential. However for me it looked more like a potential race on level 14 since both teams have no huge anti 14 lane and both teams are left with only 1 heal. I think the best thing you could do was placing as much SG as possible, not sell the egg and place the SG’s next to tot and/or even more behind in front of your two ts.
Then level 14 starts and their king controller juggled a lot, focusing extremely poor and made your team win. This was pretty lucky but turned out good for your team.
All together you fulfilled your yolo roll good in the beginning. Later I missed your thoughts to a potential race, going straight units against it. I also don’t understand why you sold a egg for no reason (maybe you can pm me later, I would love to know that btw) and because of that I rate this game 7/10.
I have also played a lot with and against you and wondered when will you apply to Lihl. You have my !support since its always a great pleasure to meet you (especially in my own team).
Cheers
NM Yolo Game:
You roll mediocre roll and drop phantom + 3 ents. I think dropping either two phantoms only or 5 ents only was by far a better choice since the mix wouldn’t fit well. You rr into another medriocre roll and decide to play nm, cancel 3. wisp in the last three seconds. I think the choice to play nm is fine here since you didn’t drop either 5 ents or two phantoms.
Your team sends lvl 2 and you decide to push to 4/0 which is good since you have crab in your pocket (if u don’t reach 2. Nm). Nevertheless you are lucky u get the required gold through selling t1 for a second nm.You full push into 4 leaving 2 nm pretty open to be killed but you found yourself with pretty lucky aggro so you barely cleared. I think taking this risk was ok since you had a really good push of 6/2 for a followed leak from enemy team and lvl 5 send from both teams. You send furmitmit since your team seems to agree to send furmits and add a ywd. Placement so far is good, I would have placed the t1 more behind but its totally fine.
You get 2 bo’s and your lane manages to get enough gold for 6/3 which you instantly take – great job. Your team gets barely away with 1 heal , but with a much much greater push resulting in big incomes and a good setup for later game. Since you have carrys in your team you decide to push to 7/5 after lvl 6 which is a good decision since your job this game is to push.
Your team sees two semi holders and still decides to send (kinda full send since you and yellow push late) which is a huge mistake. Your team loses all heals, enemy team has still 3 heals and a good setup for level 10.
After 7 you get much gold and you decide to add another nightmare, which is in my eyes a mistake since its only worth in early game and wont help further game. I think dropping some locks and rr’ing was the choice to go and see how can you develop your lane from there. It was also clear you leak a lot lvl 8 , so its pointless to add another nightmare, rather look for better anti 10 or late game units.
Your team went king at 8 which is a great choice since you somehow need to survive their lvl 10 send with shockwave and no hold potential except green. You push to 7/7 which is fine since with your units it wouldn’t make any difference to add locks. Your team leaks 8 bosses and loses the game.
Overall the build and placement was kinda good. But I think you missed a good opportunity to carry the game with a) great calls which I expect from LIHL players (sending into their team makes no point for me after all those scouts) and b) rr’ing level 8 for maybe get lucky rolls, which allows you to stay low and do more damage on level 10 to barely get away from losing a heal lvl 10.
I rate this yolo game 7/10 . Smaller building mistakes with a solid yolo play. I’d be happy to have you in my team.Just read the chat history and there is ofcourse nothing that provides a reason for a ban or a warning. just another ridiculous ban request from okbib.
Im also having super nice games with Rock, so I hope he stays at FBG and doesnt get upset from these stupid BREven though you have to work on your patience sometimes id easily support since you are a very active player and its kinda true what you saying about the delusional one
!supportThx for taking the time Torb. But I kinda disagree with your decision here since I only asked for a warning not a bann. I refer to:
6. Rules
[…]As a league, our standards and expectations are higher than pub games. […] Therefore, all players should respect their mates and the games they share.Here are some examples:
00:20 Allies Zevex7 iam in
00:46 Allies Zevex7 blinden so bad…
00:49 Allies Zevex7 what a tker–> Ive seen people getting banned for calling someone TK
08:39 Allies Zevex7 u sold t2 for -25ß
08:41 Allies Zevex7 🙂
08:47 Allies Zevex7 wp
08:49 Allies Zevex7 lul
09:33 Allies Zevex7 planing build is also hard–> Making jokes about something and then goes with
12:55 Allies Zevex7 u are on mute
12:57 Allies Zevex7 ciaoWhen I said nothing critical at all, just pointed out that his kc nearly cost us one heal.
So am I allowed to mute people like i want? This is an example of how NOT to communicate with your team and if he wont get warned for either muting 2 guys for no reason at all AND/OR being such a disrespectful player, I will have that in mind next time Im gonna ignore someone for no reason.
One more example:
16:51 Allies Zevex7 he sold for -25
16:54 Allies Zevex7 i mean..
17:02 Allies Zevex7 dude cant plan from 1 lvl to anotherand:
17:29 Allies Zevex7 call it pink
17:33 Allies Zevex7 i ignored em
22:02 Allies Zevex7 good player it seems ^^..
22:50 Allies Zevex7 pink can u tell him 7/6He ignored two of us and therefore we couldnt communicate in a team any more. He asked several times pink to tell something to us other players. We had no communication about the game at all leading to the obvious 14 send we were missing and losing the game because of it. We lost a game cause of this behaviour.
Hyo please pm me in discord and go more into detail with the “you have been on spotlight for a while now”. I have played over 200 games since 2 months at fbg, hosted about 150 games, have been giving out tones of love and support for trials, spoke to several admins and supporting this comunity in wc3 public games from time to time. But I am in fact highly disappointed to here your words. Would love to change that somehow.
I can quote what an admin wrote in the chat channel because an admin already discussed this topic in the fbg chatroom. I have the same opinion like the admin. Noone has the right to take king unless the team is having consensus about who should kc (pls feel free to correct me if it’s not like that). There is no right of king controll nor is there “my king”. So for my defence:
Did mauz ask to take king early on?
Did I violete against ANY rule here?
Did I go verbal at all? Did I go provoke?
Didn’t i ask him to chill down in a nice way?I can tell you that mauz didn’t ask to kc. I didn’t do either. None of us had the right to kc, but from last games I knew it would be better if I kc since the last games I let him kc he lost a game.
I ignored him because I am 100% concentrate on my kc and in most cases the kc swap don’t even work because of the existing bug.
Speaking for myself I find it interesting you said I ended up doing “my way” and waving when its not necessarily. That’s just not true since I asked in the chat , whether to wave or not (if I remember correctly). Two of three person also agreed on the wave thing , how can you just ignore those facts? Its a team game so I let the team also decide how much heals we want to lose, whether to wave or not.
You also said i didn’t try to talk to him. Well, what can I say more then you may look into the chat again. I asked him to chill down but I am not gonna talk with people randomly going crazy like he did , meanwhile having two other players ignoring each other.
Last words. I think if he’d ask for kc i the team would have made an decision since I wanted to kc and mauz wanted to. But he didn’t ask. Not a single time. He didn’t also try to cooperate in a nice way. I could also just listened to an admin saying I should feel free to mute guys when they go ham like this. But I didn’t. Why? Because everyone can be a better person. I didn’t wanna mess it up more as the game already was. Sad that you see me in the spotlight since I have hosted and played many many games without being toxic or breaking the rules once. Yet I am standing up for our right and get wich hunted by those guys. Please do me the favor and read the discussion on fbg feedbacks channel from yesterday. You give reasons for me not to stand up for anything toxic ever again and I will consider not reporting any cases any more when u feel me being in the spotlight as one of the most chilled and motivated guys out there to play with.
Cheers
Preceeding the initial cherrypicked comment was this dicussion
This is no “cherrypicking”, this is listening the chat where you break the rules and show just bad behaviour.
A very productive attitude when confronted with his obvious and deliberate tk, which of course prompted me to be somewhat consternated.
Again you call TK, proving one more time the bann hammer needs to fall. I decided for myself to go semi at lvl3, therefore adding a Sentry and ending up 380val (recommended in Aqua guide is 350-400), so I knew I might leak some hoping for the best.
Lets see what you did: You rr’d after dropping 2 cw, selling one and go 3/0 push even though you rolled into Malf AND us having no decent Warrior cover. I could rant at you saying “why u mix cw man, it sucks!!!!” BUT I didnt and let you play your own game. You added malf lvl 2 and therefore leaked 12 (!) creeps at lvl 2 giving a full scout. SO I think my 4 leaks on Level 3 which you mentioned are fine, right? The sentry I added was also helping me a lot on 7 and 10. But lets look at you again since you like argueing about bad units choices and mixes (which you offered a perfect example of such). Your outcome was 3/0 push at lvl 3. With 2 cw you would have been what? 4/1 push? And no leaking lvl 2.
Lets look at lvl 5: I decided to add a SG cause I wanted to have a Hydra on 7. In every case we needed a holder. You say I leaked half the wave. Thats very interesting because I leaked 8 units excluding one furb, which is – if my mathe is right – less then your level 2 leak with 12 creeps. Adding SG not only saved us one heal here, it also did a perfect job on lvl 6 send, which therefore resulted in my call (full 7 send) and the enemy team losing some heals. It also resulted in me being the hero we needed for 7 and 10. We lost. No. Single. Heal. The entire game! We aced the enemy team in a race which wasnt even a race because again I was huge mid. It resulted straight from my decision and if you call this tk, you are out of this world.
I’m not gonna bother overly much to refute all of the misrepresented and cherrypicked chat examples
No, thanks dont do this. You already made yourself look terrible by argueing here and not taking the chance to say you are sorry or whatever. There is not even a single spark of manners or self-reflection in your behaviour which is by the way pretty poor.
https://firstbloodgaming.com/forums/topic/kilika-flaming/ should be taken into consideration since I heard behaviour is important for being a LIHL player. Two games tried to force his opinion on mine. Skillwise cant tell much but he needs to improve behavior since he is getting triggered easily for no reason at all.
“i dont see me flaming you for what u did.”
11:11 Allies dpteacher u see this?
11:14 Allies dpteacher transitions nice
11:17 Allies mtg pro purple
11:19 Allies dpteacher just for ya interest
11:24 Allies Kilika stfu for real
11:24 Allies Kilika !@#$ for real
11:30 Allies Kilika ur just dumb af
11:32 Allies Kilika tahts all
11:32 All mtg gg
11:36 Allies KissAdrian calm plz“[..] some personal vendetta against me for several games already, always questioning my calls or suggestions.”
10:09 Allies Kilika yah
10:13 Allies Kilika even furhter now purp
10:14 Allies Kilika u got it
10:26 Allies dpteacher whats ur problem with me
10:28 Allies KissAdrian lol
10:31 Allies mtg gg
10:41 Allies mtg smartes ob ever purp and blue
10:43 Allies mtg love u guysInteresting call .. I talked about you with an admin about this game because you perma flamed me with poor behavior and I just said I will let you pass and give you a third chance.
It was a late game and I was sleepy, thats why i missed the 13 call and got a little late. But all in all i missed like one garg if I remember correctly.
I didnt like you playing dicator on me and calling TK every minute
