[thegreatMOAMOA]

Yo

I just watched the NS pris game.

team rolls :
– ea
– turret with anti 10 adds on free
– OP roll on purp who can OB carrying any lvl he wants to or simply yolo

your roll : novice saber no adds

You should definitly keep this roll going crusader 4/0 into saber, your team don’t need you to rryour team only weakness with those rolls is lvl 6
– when you decide to rr you should place 2 sentries, one novice, one specter, but you place one sentry only, you rr into some OP shit : lod dm priso, but you keep saber instead of going lod and from this point of the game you decide to OB.
Well, there s a lot to say, first of all, your team don’t need you to OB, 2nd, your OB option are really bad, the best OB setup you could reach vs 7 was going 2 saber darkmage hades, but you placed 1 sentry only ; and again, your team weakness is 6, so planning any hades 7 is not covering your team there.

you end up with a prisoner lvl 2, which is covering your team this level indeed but maverick is terrible level 7, the only point of going maverick with saber is yoloing lvl 6, and then you need it to be behind, so saber can tank some, as OB this placement is also bad cuz maverick is suiciding lvl 7, they died when saber was still full HP, mav being front might increase the chances the snipe the sends but it’s still not worth.

so this decision of building a prisoner and building it in front of saber is basically some “all in” anti 2 into a pain to have it in your set up and having it there for the rest of the game.

After they sent lvl 2 you went 470 val lvl 3 with a dark mage add, which is massive OB.
You should have kept your first roll, and considering you rr’d it you should have play lod start into yolo.

There are a lot of things you need to work on before being ready for a trial :
– knowing your job for the team : don’t rr level 1 and simply go for crusader saber which is a very strong yolo
– always place anything that might be usefull before rr’ing : 2 sentries 1 novice 1 specter
– yolo knowledge : you definitly don’t need 470 val to hold level 3
– tower decision and placement : no maverick ever if you plan to OB early game, mav behind saber

“there is nothing else I can learn from FBG.”
I hear this quite often and this is 99% of the time wrong, any 4v4 LTD game, even in pub, is an oportunity to optimize build skill, especially the yolo, with placement and values.

Nosupport, but GL

[thegreatMOAMOA]

approved, gl for trial

[thegreatMOAMOA]

Agreed with the review above, approved, GL for your trail inQ

[thegreatMOAMOA]

Vouched for LIHL

[thegreatMOAMOA]

review finished on voice + stream

Deny

[thegreatMOAMOA]

vouched

[thegreatMOAMOA]

Game 1 : saber ygg
you place ts with your first roll and rr into saber ygg, you play it the standart way from lvl 1-4 with no t1 add, which is fine since your team is completly OB lvl 2-3
level 5 you add a sentry behind, pink gamble 5 skipping hydra so your decision is fine, I dislike the placement tho, sentry should be in front, her job is to block the BO if they send, you don’t want your front saber to get sniped by an angry BO vs a send, especially when you didn’t build a t1.

On 6 you OB slightly with another sentry, it’s fine since the game is fast and you don’t really have the time to push.
You end up 7/4 2 saber 2 sentries vs 7, which is good, your push order is wrong tho : 5/0 -> 5/1 -> 7/2. You should have 3/0 -> 3/1 -> 6/3.

You add a ygg for 8, great placement and right decision, you upgrade saber level 9 after selling a sentry, for arena you stay 7/6.

Your early game is good but you take some weird decisions for midgame :
you definitly need 7/7, your job is to clear with toks and push the rest, also you basically jsut leaked 7, and few creeps on 9, so you give rly good bounty : prolly 40-50% level 11, leaking some in midgame in order to feed your teamates and reach 3 toks is the play, you get an harlot lvl 11 which makes you hold which is rly bad.
Because it’s dead value + deny feed for your team, also the placement is wrong, it stole a spot for a ygg.
On level 15 you go 3 toks, ascendant and you have 3 saber from early game.
You are 3.3k ish, you leak the sends + 2-3 centaurs.

your build is slightly better than going 4 toks, just because you leak a bit slower this way, the clearing potential is the same and you had a chance to snipe the behemoth with your ascendant. But this is another reason why going 7/7 is better, if you went 7/7 you could reach 4 toks, selling 1 saber, and the outcome is the exact same (your sends you leak to mid faster jsut) but when you are 3-3.3 k val with ygg usually you jsut want 4 tok which clears 90-100% of centaurs.
Game 2 : ghoul wyv

you place raider and some carrion spitter, rr into ghoul specter botom feeder wyvern.
You have a great yolo roll which gonna be pure dead value midgame, sadly it’s the same for 2 of your teamates.

You palced your carrions lvl 1 far back behind the raider, but you actually want them close to raider for few raisons : earlier dps, wall clog, and small share damage.
At the end you placed ghoul str8 front of carrion spitter, which is perfect

You OB lvl 1 because your team is rip vs warriors, which happens, you are mid with 2/0, this is good, you full push into wyvern lvl 3 : good again.
You left half of a gap between wyvern and ghoul, which is fine, I like slightly more a full gap between them, for level 4 6 and 8 but your placement is better level 3 and 5, anwyay it’s good that you didn’t build it straight fornt of ghoul.
You add a wyvern lvl 5, which is OB but it’s the set up you want level 6 so it’s fine.
Great placement of 2nd wyvern, wyvern is a great wall clog unit, you have almost same wall clog potential as if this 2nd wyvern was half of a gap back and your share damage will be better, I like it a lot.

You decide not to overpush, you have 0 chance to mid 15 with this amount of dead value but since 2 of your teamates have no chance either it makes sense, and this game doesn’t have to be 15 race so the decision is good, you plan to carry 10, you rr into butcher, you will do good lvl 10 12 13 14.
At the end you just win 12.

Ill review the rest later

[thegreatMOAMOA]

Replay reviewed on voice + stream

GL for your trial

[thegreatMOAMOA]

Team name : 4.0 Challengers

Capitano :
-Karaoke

Team members :

-Root
-thegreatMOAMOA
-1337

Bench :

-Wikarn

[thegreatMOAMOA]

If you went afk it would also end up as ban for noshow, like Krocis yesterday, anyway it doesn’t look like a dodge to me, but as a reminder if swap happens too often from a specific player it will result as a warn or even a ban, you have a big history of swap after robot instasign when your game ends, pls next time pay attention at this.

Unbanned

[thegreatMOAMOA]

Purpose of this rule is for people who have little time to play, we often see people asking for swap out because DC before level 3 or very late host : it’s basically a rule made for people who say “I have 40-45 min let’s start quick pls”

The reason why you asked for swap out it’s because you clearly didn’t like your team and you wanted to dodge it, after teams were made you started to joke saying you had to go etc, anyway, I don’t want to argue about it we both know you had time to play but you didn’t want to play with this team and you found a malicious way to do it which is abusing the rule.

There are tons of LIHL rules people can abuse, which leads to toxicity and we don’t want that, it was a clear dodge.

Denied

[thegreatMOAMOA]

Denied

[thegreatMOAMOA]

Accepted

[thegreatMOAMOA]

vouch request done on stream + voice, Deny.

[thegreatMOAMOA]

it’s obviously not intentional tk and I can see you spent a lot of time to think of a way to make your trap roll work, so there is no troll, afk, or tk on purpose.

But I know you are quick to build and write, in my opinion you had the time to ask the team “do icetroll one shot crabs ?” or “do I hold level 1?” you must know you are taking a massive risk with only 160 value, especially when you lack of knowledge about this unit on level 1.
I feel you just didn’t bother ask, which made you leaking half lane into suicide lane from level 3.
Nothing intentional but clearly lack of communication.

Ban reduced to 1 day total

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