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While his KC on Lv 1 and 7 was not “top tier”, it also was not intentionally bad. If there is an issue with who will KC next time, perhaps have the team vote on it. Its usually just good manners to defer KC to the best KCer.
The banter back and forth is childish but I don’t think its enough for an unvouch. Next time just try to sort this out like adults.
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The reason you got dodge, is because you were signed for the lobby 3 minutes before it filled. From our perspective, it is suspicious that you did not show up at all – especially considering you did not leave a message saying you were going afk or anything.
If you went over to your neighbors house to babysit, you could have used your phone to at least leave a message on discord saying you are AFK / ask for a swap.
Since it is your first offense, and you have no history of dodging i will accept the appeal.
If you cannot make a game in the future, please have the courtesy of letting people know.
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Slavemaster replay – decent roll with slave u got captain and druid adds.
You start lv with 2/0 standard slave build, not a bad idea since your team is pretty weak on lv 1. You push 3/0 on 2 for bo send on 3, sadly enemy send 2 and you leak heavily but you push 4/0 with king gold.
You manage to hold 5 with 6/2 – you push here for 6 going 7/2 and build the rest for 6. Enemy sends and u dont mid but it was a good read.
You end up getting 3 slave masters here for 8. This was a mistake, usually 2 slavemasters is more than enough especially since u got other adds like captain and druid for damaging 10.
You drop some druids and a captain on 9 and RR into meliaa with parrot and malf.
You mid on 10 and win the game here.
Decent replay, you added a bit more dead value than needed however your push was good and you have a good grasp on slave meta.
Trial approved. Welcome back and good luck!
Disciple DP game – decent mix with militia early, you obed for lv 5 right after enemy fail send on 4. Adding polar on lv 8 also not the best choice, prob a sentry would be more useful for you here and make u leak less. Pushing on 10 was good, 7/6 was ok but you could have saved gold for 7/7 as upping sabre isnt that useful and dead value this late in the game. Anyway you stay 7/6 and RR into DP so it pays off.
Your team sends 14 and enemy dies quietly.
Overall, placement was good and push was decent.
I will review one more replay.
Hey buddy, welcome back.
There are some new requirements now to join/apply for LIHL. Since you have been gone for so long and mostly inactive they will apply to you as well.
1) Having +1200 elo (minimum 50 games) and having 3 lihl players vouch for you.
2) Having +1200 elo (minimum 50 games) and doing a vouch request with replaysI see you havent been that active in FBG so please play some more games there and get more accustomed to the META… the standard for LIHL is still high and we expect you to be in peak shape before applying.
Good luck.
hey brother, happy to see you back!
The game has changed drastically (new units, new sends, new meta etc.) since you have been inactive.
For that reason, you will need to re-apply with replays to join LIHL. Please play some games in FBG and once you feel you are confident in the game once again make an application.
Good luck, and I look forward to playing with you again!
As far as knowing the towers, I have no doubt obkik that you have the requisite knowledge. There are two huge issues for us that we have noticed in FBG LTD:
1. Attempting to micromanage players and being toxic if they do not listen
2. Reporting “baby shit” issues on the forum (related to #1)
In LIHL, both of these factors are hugely important to ensuring that we maintain a positive and competitive environment where people want to play. For your trial to be successful, you will need to work with your team and learn to play as a teammate instead of as a “boss”.
Good luck.
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your roll: ent, novice, violet, copter, grizz and GoD
Your team had blaster/necro, aqua with decent adds and zombie dp. Keeping this roll on free is not ideal. You don’t really have a 6 issue (your team can cover) and with zombie and blaster lane u need yolo more than u need a grizz roll with no adds. Drop and roll was the better call here.
You start grizz novice lv 1, with 2/0. You send wars and get small goal but stay 2/0. With a shitty roll, sending wars u should be pushing. at the very least, start the push and cancel if no/not enough KG since ur only a bit short for wisp + 110g crusader. Considering you have the worst roll in your team, its expected that you risk and go for push.
Enemy sends 2, your team king leaks but clears fairly well. You stay 3/0 here, and add copter. Not terrible, but u could probably have pushed 4/0 and held 3 with a violet add. Copter is better 5, but since ur going for a greymane, u should aim for least value needed. Indeed on lv 5 you are stuck 5/1 with mediocre roll (not ideal yolo)
Enemy sends 5 after leak on 4 and u guys leak small to king with blaster mid and stomp. You decide here to go semi for 7 with 6/1 and add a grizzly for lv 6. Considering blue has zombie with DP, i think you should have deferred to him for OB since he has by far the better roll.
East gets thorn and skips 7, lucky for you since you had a very weak hold here.
You rr here for free into aqua necro druid – very lucky and perhaps a bit late I would have rr’d soon as u dropped that 2nd grizzly.
unlucky focus for you on 10 leaking 3 low hp boss to mid but enemy team does even worse and dies.
Overall this replay i give a 3/10. You played quite selfishly here with a bad roll, lucky RR on 8 put u back in the game, but had u not rr’d into a top 5 anti 10 unit after lv 7, ur semi and ob for lv 7 could have costed ur team hugely as u took feed before having towers to hold 10. Considering you had 2 teammates (blaster/necro, zombie/dp) that could have done it as well, this game was poorly played despite the win.
I lost the writeup for the NS game, but it was an OP roll that u played decently.
However, playing OP rolls well is not enough for LIHL. Being able to play bad rolls efficiently is just as important.
For now I will deny your trial. You should focus on playing your roll according to the teams needs. Optimizing your push with shitty rolls as well (especially following enemy team sends).
Good luck if you apply again in the future.
I am glad you and n1ll3 both talked it out. Both of you guys are reasonable people who rarely get to insulting, this surprised me too.
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1. Elder, we recently made an announcement about people micromanaging lanes (when its unwanted). This includes trials, and in this game you were trying to dictate to virus what to build and you were toxic afterwards when he didn’t listen. He had an op roll and there was 5000 ways to play it. You guys also had immo so even though you were right in hindsight, doesn’t mean you can be toxic rest of the game. Just get over it.
2. Virus, you need to remember you are a trial. Even if you have more elo than some people, doesn’t mean you should just mock them when they try to give you advice or guidance. I have noticed this is a trend with you.
3. Sony going 5/4 for push is a total classic sony stoner move. Lol
4. I don’t see this as a ragequit. Eld is notorious for his shitty internet, and there was nothing going on immediately in the game or the chat to suggest it was a RQ. You guys still had OP rolls and 2x 7/2 holders for 10. It seems more like eld got saved from a toxic situation by his shitty internet.
Eld, you have FOUR flame bans in the past, and you were extremely toxic this game. Given your past history where you have been banned for this type of behaviour several times I really expect you to switch it up.
For that, 5 day ban. Clean up your behaviour @eld3r, seriously with your past history and all your dcs ruining games you should be one of the nicest guys in lihl.
Okay after watching the replay-
I do not think ben intentionally teamkilled. His build and play was very poor, however.
1. Ben, 1/0 ob like that was nn. I think you had the right intention, selling ur lod because u saw 2 teammate with lod roll. Its ok, LOD is op and u can yolo with it ez unlike that seagiant. You for sure could have played your roll much better, like your teammates said.
2. N1ll3, the way you spoke to ben this game was unacceptable. As a former mod, you should know better that we cannot micro what ppl do in their lanes. Once you told ben it was wrong choice, it was no need to go beyond that. There were a lot of things you said during this game, like calling ben a pussy etc. that was not needed. There was some worse things you said later that I won’t comment here, because I am sure you understand the point.
3. Ben you left almost right after n1ll3 said some offensive comments to you. At this point the game was also going very poorly for you as well. I also know that you have internet issues and you have DC’d recently even in freewin games. Due to the timing of the leave, and the situation in the game, I will consider this a rage quit.
Ben banned 5 days for ragequit.
N1ll3 warned for flame – if you flame another person like this about their builds, it will be ban next time.
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Took a random replay : https://wc3stats.com/games/123673
Lv 1 you reroll your first roll, pretty quickly as well – zombie with icetroll
You didn’t even drop a zombie, you dropped 2 icetrolls and corrupted ent and rr into even more shit roll –
hatchling, rifle, gate, ywd cyborg and flameboy.
Your first roll wasnt amazing, but its just low IQ to not even drop the best unit (zombie) in that roll before rr’ing.
You end up keeping your 2 icetrolls with ent and 3/0 start.
You add a gateguard behind your icetrolls on lv 2 and add 2 more gateguards in front for lv 3. I feel 3 gateguards was probably overkill but enemy sent 3 and u held bo so it paid off.
upped icetroll + 1 infantry with 6/1 for 5. You could probably have held 5 with just the icetroll but not a big deal. Ypu leak small on 6 but end up pushing 7/4 for 7. Since your team decided to skip 7, 7/4 was a big risk as you can’t expect much king gold.
For Lv 8 you upped your 2nd icetroll – this doesnt help you on 8, and the aura doesnt stack. Better choice here probably would have been upgrading one of your gate guards even.
You leak a lot on 8, and after inc you push 7/5 and dont add anything on lv 9. Based on yellows lane, your team now has 2 deadlanes. Thankfully there is a lot of king gold on lv 10 and you can somewhat recover
You drop a fireboy / cyborg for arena and continue massing cyborgs after that. You could have taken your 50 here, but theres leaks every round so keeping anti 14/15 isnt a bad idea.
Anyway, enemy holds your 15 send and kills you on 16.
A lot of issues in this replay:
1. Reading the pace of the game – pushing 7/4 when your team is skipping 7 was risky considering you had holder on your team too. If you can’t expect a lot of king gold, pushing 7/4 is risky and prevents recovery on 8 especially when you had a potential dead lane on yellow.
2. Same issue in your other replay, rerolling lv 1 a perfectly playable roll. Probably one of my biggest triggers is ppl rerolling instantly on Lv 1. In LIHL you will need to play your roll according to the teams needs, and often that is what makes the difference between win or lose. Rerolling lv 1 because you don’t want to play “boring zombie” is just a bad habit.
The silver lining on this replay is that you didn’t fail as hard as yellow.
I rate this replay 3/10.
For this I am going to deny you a trial right now. From what I have seen, you have improved a lot on FBG but you are still lacking a lot of tower knowledge and being able to read the pace of the game. Work on those things and hopefully you apply again in the future.
Good luck.
