[Wolke]

all this happend after his last vouche request

[Wolke]

HUGE no support.
nothing has changed since last mod request. i agree with the feedback before

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[Wolke]

I agree with tin here. Even so Eld3r behaves slightly better in the last days the toxic atmosphare in lihl created by him and others like v1russtyle is a problem.

[Wolke]

Here we go again. Elder doing another useless report. If you watch the replay, feal free to just compare lanes, he didn´t well aswell..

you talking about atmosphere, meanwhile you have the biggest bantime in history, even this time you close to crossing the line again. See ss. You can also see chat and think if he eld3r uses the right language..
chat:
08:37 Allies xqs wolke this is tk on purpose again? (before this time, no advice, no suggestion, just start with a flame..in germany we say der ton macht die musik. as you can see from the other replay (which didn´t get uploaded so i can´t link it here). I do listen to advive from eld3r and i am willing play with team.

About the game in general. My generall mistake in this game was to not rr early. After the first lvl i fealt like i had to much empty value for 10 and also was not rly willing to I saw red with Ts,Clock, Copter hydra and from our chat till around 5m it was clear for me he is going holder with potential 10 hold. So for me the Ob roll was coverd. Yolo was available to play. A rr could have lead into a better roll with anti 10 and that chance i missed.

I still played an ok roll to play it. I never had raiser T2-tank dwarf before as a combo, and grey and mermaid are some ok adds to play with. My idea was that i can start with a good 3/0 push, 4 as a weakness of raiser is np cause of the dwarf and even so i leak 5 a bit, i do fine and hold 6 and 9. My push during the game was 7/1 pre 5 and 7/7 pre 10. Good yolo, and not stay low with raiser for 10. Dk how that is trolling or something like that.

I could have mixed in a rat and pushed like 1 wisp on 1-2 lvl pre 5 early. Also maybe an upped raiser could be better. Still i think the outcome with around 560 value on 5 wouldn´t change much and feeding some for holder seems better then no risc as yolo. I talked with moa in private about the game and he said

but 7/1 pre 5 seems ok for a yolo and FAR away from trolling, teamkilling and i also think yolo with a raiser lane is cooperating.

I eld3r doesn´t have the social skills to fit in a community i am sorry for him.

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[Wolke]

I have no question, that Viruskiril is skillwise rdy to do ingame judgement. I also think he is aktive enough and most important he is dedicated for lihl.

Lihl always had the problem, that it was a semi competitive game. We always had a wide range from the tryhard fration to the casual fraktion. AS a mod you need to bring balance to the force, beeing an attorney for both this. This point i do truly question in this application.

i don´t support.

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[Wolke]

Hey,

i just to answers this step by step.

1.) I play for fun, why not ? Lihl/WC3 is a game i play in my freetime and i have enough non fun aktivities during other times. What does that mean ?

Atm i see myself between Wolke Texas Ranger on total tryhard mode and unvouche worthy amount of tk and trolling (i don´t troll !). I started playing more frequently last weeks and i am for sure not prime wolke these days, still i finished last season after playing 181 Games with 927 Elo. Even this is bad, and elo is not the best indicator, it should still show, that i am not total tk. I did also did talk about of player to improve my gameplay. I don´t sign game after game, i do include advice in my gameplay. I had conversation about current gameplay Tin, N1ll3, Ranz, em1il, Redrum, dafuker and many more. I didn´t agree with every advive, still i had atleast a conversation about it.

So let´s get a bit more specific, Game 1: Colt, Slave, Tribe, Pris, Ts, God,
Liftwaffe said i need to get unvouched, so this analyse is not about playing bad, it´s about playing so bad, that unvouche is needed:
Wave 1-3: Warri is called, all send and we send into no leak yolo team, Game already rly hard from here.
Even according to liftwaffel i play normal 1-3 and i also send with Team. Communication is there ! I don´t go full hold after that, and do communicate it in a bit „funny way“ (sry for bad english here). I still can play my lane the way i want ! Yes i prefer to yolo in most cases. We also have some „ob team over there let´s k10 player in lihl“, so the general style of playing should not be a reason for unvouche. But from now on it´s get complicated, liftwaffe calls:

04:24
Allies
ChipSkylark
and y prb they k7

05:42
Allies
ChipSkylark
wolke stay?

I think full ob on his call his straight 7 call is wrong and don´t follow it. I do communiocate it so and ob a bit even, so team is already ob and not weak on wave . On 4 we had Yellow with 460, me (oj) with 560 value and dafuker green with 540 value monk 2x geo and pink (root) pink with egg turret spec. 3 of us had legit chance to ob against send and we as a team were not weak at all. Combined we leak 26 only against west send. Even so Yellos as our leader said they don´t send and complains i can´t read game.

In his report he said:
The enemy sends 4, wolke leaks half his wave.

This is not true ! I leak 14/36 38% and 1 sprit mid, killing 1 bo below 50% on sends aswell. Not even close enough to 50% combined .
liftwalle complains again at obs chat already, even so we as a team leak only 27 kill nearly all send burn ! 0 ! heal and end up with with ca. 2,5k hp king against 4 send.

At this point we had alot of potential calls to send from 5-10 with up king. I did follo every call so. Game was not bad not great at this point, he had the chance to goal back.
Yellow still keeps complain in obs chat:

07:08
Observer
ChipSkylark
we expect them to k7 with trashh
(kk so we (you only) don´t expect 4 even so they send = wrong
07:12
Observer
ChipSkylark
so plan was to out ob them
07:20
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ChipSkylark
but hes like “i hate ob” and pushes (see above i don´t agree, still communicate cause not not weak at all)

07:24
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ChipSkylark
with fucking slave ts

07:30
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ChipSkylark
like 3rd game hes total babooning me
07:46
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ChipSkylark
alot of war into ob with trash usually
07:52
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ChipSkylark
from the guy that claims to hate ob

Sadly for him, even obs chat doesn´t agree:

11:55
Private
chunkie
now ur really fuming lol

Games goes on and wave 5 Start, Yellow said before the game: Not only is he incapable of reading games himself, which seems wrong after the following wave:

After an good early push 6/1 pre 5, i did decide to stay now for 5-7 after the scout us on 5. Means i would do ok (semi) 5-8 while stille get some inc and can hold 10. Also do fine midgame with nice inc. That worked out ! I was mid all lvl from 7 to 17. West get´s scout on us from 5 from yellow so (no blame so so, was right call to push here after he failed early game). My call to stay for 6 was good, still slave, tribe, ride doesn´t get good so right at thit point. Leak only 4 Creeps+send with send 6, but freehold 7 was to be expected. Reading game by myself also done :D. More Rider>tribe could be good pre 10 but i did decide to get tribe on certain lvl cause of gold and cause can be better on 10. I know they are good.

Just for the record. At this point i did follow all teamcalls and did communicate about my lane strategy.

So what happend after we did follow yellows calls all game and lost. We 2:1 Heals on 10 which could be 2v2 if we up, but we decide to 12, even so a race 15 could be shot.

I want to summarize some points:

He was wrong at to expect when other team send, still blames i can´t read game.
Even so i did anticipate when other team send, ob on right lvl, take freehold after it, it was me who tk this game just because i refuse his ob call.
He said i don´t cooperate with team, i did send with team, communicate with team.
He said we forced into desperation 12, when 2v2 heal including me auto mid all lvl after 11 is sure, but he as a leader is no mentaly able te setup a race call for our team.

I mean let´s get real here. Am i a pro #10 Player atm ? Ofc not ! But if you gonna unvouche me, go on. I play since 2014. I am sure i am a postive part of this community. I don´t pp. I don´t flame, i teamplay, i don´t disc, there is rarely drama around me, i can deal with many player i don´t understand right away.

Also i want so suggest to rename a lihl channel Processed Requests into: „Elder got banned why“:
Ofc we all know that Elder is neutral in this case and not mad because she got banned for 1 month for flaming after she got banned on like 12931823713 reason after getting reported for from different player for the same reason..

[Wolke]

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[Wolke]

1 Game after Report. Respond on unvouche comming

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[Wolke]

welcome back. #support from me

[Wolke]

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[Wolke]

Discord ss

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[Wolke]

Hi Nico

first off all thx for your vouche request and sorry for waiting so long.
I finally got some time to check some off your replays.
Unfortunately i saw to many mistakes.
To give you some help to improve i will point out a few from the 10-3 replay

You start with:
Spectre, Ghoul, Icetroll, Mermaid, Wyvern, Hawk

For me this is an average roll and i would drop a wyv some spectre and rr. It´s ok to not rr if you feal confident to play the roll so.
You start with a ghoul and 2 spectre which is ok, not great so.
For 2 you add an unupped icetroll and up it for 3. The other Team still didn´t send, which is rly lucky for you, cause you leak huge against weak send.
LvL 4 you leak with 450 Value no send.

So far you did the following mistakes:
-no rr when you can
-you should have build different units like start wyvern
-if you build ghoul, you have 2 options how to build: 1 more melee so your single ghoul doesn´t get sniped. 2: you build range infront your melee so your units dmg share.
Your first wyv placement pre 5 for expample was way better then your last.

I see you have some good basic skills and if you play more you will improve.
At this moment you sadly not rdy for lihl. I suggest you gonna obs some games in lihl and just asked the other obs alot of question.

Denied

[Wolke]

In order to start your vouch process, please post a new topic, following this format:

Tell us what other previous league or in-house experience you have:
Provide a list of aliases and other accounts. These are names that people might recognize you as:
Discord account:
BattleTag on Bnet:
If possible, provide a list of LIHL players who might know you or that you are acquainted with:
Any additional information that you would like to provide:

Also please attach some replays so we can analyse your current skill level

[Wolke]

I watched 3 of the Replay including the one Tin did upload. I also did obs a fbg game. Sony- and i did talk in person about what went wrong in his first Trial. We also did an analyze about the 1 tk game tin did upload. All in all i am sure he can fit into lihl.

gl with your second trial

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[Wolke]

Hi MonkeyTown,

Replay 1 Aquafastgame:

You roll: aqua, ygg and polar.
Pre 10 you play normal aqua yolo.

Till 7 you play a standart aqua yolo without mistakes. After 7 you push from 7/4 to 7/5, because of that you leak 8 and your team kingleaks. Doesn´t have to be a mistake, since you could add a ygg for 9 and send huge 10. At this point you more or less a „clear with tok/send big“lane.
After 10 you are 7/7 and send 3,6k+ on 15. You still clear.

Key moment this game was pre lvl 8. You had an option to go for dmg 10 and possibel mid 15.
They way you execute your decision after you push is fine so. In lihl with a more skilled team and most of the time a leader, i suggest to communicate about this.

Placement is fine all game long.
Overall good replay with an ez roll.

Replay 2 Malf/peewe.
Your roll: peewe, ogre, malf ywd.

You start malf and upped pewee. I think 2 malf and ogre or even 3/0 is the play here, since your team covers 1 already and pewee is empty value compared to malf. Ogre is a decend add for malf on all lvl basicly.
Wave 5: you get a 2nd upped peewe. In generall i can see a way to mix in 1 peewe with malf if you get it for 2. With your roll i see better option.
Wave 6: You leak with 585. It´s ok cause purp got an op roll and does eat mid, but still.
Wave 10: First you stay 7/4 during 9 and end up missing some gold for 2nd abno. You should have pushed like 7/5-6 early on 9 here. You have 300 empty value and you not fat, so there is no way you go mid on 10 and also not after it. With purp you also had sure mid 10 15 already. Your Job was to get Lumber this game not an in between no hold no push. When you setup your lane for 10+, it´s either black or white. You hero and go mid, or you push and leak 15. 7/5 no hold no send is no go.

With 10 starting you go 7/5. Adding ogre with stun could be an option, if you stayed until this point. Your Team was discussion 12, so pushing late is ok in that case so.
For 12 you add tot behind. You want tot infront of malfs, cause you want to keep malf alive as long as possibel and also tot has some range, so malf gonna run infront anyway. If you place behind no dmg share.
You send 12 and win.

You kinda picked the wrong start with this roll and that mistake did hunt you all game.
For 1200 or Fbg bot it´s a solid game, cause there were no major mistake. Compared to lihl i think you played below average here.

Replay 3:

You roll: warchief, nm, egg, overseer, parrot, mr krabs.

I did restart the replay 3times to check if you used 0g rr after dropping some stuff.
You decide to start nm with having 0g rr.
Your roll does have no op unit for midgame and is just ok for early game.
Wave 3: You get fat on 3, cause your team does leak cause of bad builds.
Wave 5: you pushed 7/1 and no X/2 cause you want to send 5, good you did no lj. You have enough gold for 3th nm. It is ob, but because of the send it is the right choice.
You finally use your 0g rr after placing 3th nm with enough time to build. You have polar wyv now. You still keep the nm.
For 7 you push 7/3, which is good and build up. You have 1k value 7/3 on 7, so you are fat.
You add a polar and wyv behind and the other team skip 7. You leak around 10 creeps. You had the wrong units with wrong placement here. You had no Magna, and both polar and wyv did not dmg share with your nm.
The game goes till 15. You hold 10 and 15 and carry your team to victory.

You might call me petty now, but i don´t think you played good this game even you end up super fat.

All in all, you have an ok understanding what is going on.
You placement is ok, nothing special so.
Your push timings are good.
Your choice of what to build is bad to ok.
You communicate in an active way with your team, which i like.
Also we as a mod team don´t have any resend negative feedback regarding your attidude.
I don´t think you can learn how to improve skillwise outside of lihl.

Pls keep in mind that the meta in lihl will make legion td a compleatly different game. You need to play with open mind.

Good look with your trial.

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