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!support, questionable decisions from the first weeks are gone. Imo he plays good now
You’re starting to come off as a bit arrogant, would suggest toning that down if you actually wanna have a long stay here.
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This reply was modified 5 years, 1 month ago by
epicdeath.
This is obviously an attempt by RedRum (aka ReRoll) to get lower ping games by banning anyone that would like to king control but who also lives in the western or southern hemisphere.
However, this was a mistake on his part as he can no longer blame his below average kc on “omg how can anyone play on 250 ping” and may instead have to own up to his mistakes.
You’d think he’d be used to owning up to mistakes considering how many he makes in his builds but the question mark button saves him from all but the most heinous misplays, dutifully providing lod/hydra/ghost/mutant upon necessity.
(unban him pls)
!support he got good rly fast
This guy is pretty decent as I remember, regardless people with skill below 1200 average have been given trials with some success so I see no reason to not give this bloke a go
(one insult rly aint bannable imo)
I think that Justpush should be unvouched for 1 month for posting this unvouch request.
I also think that Raiden should be unvouched for 1 month for supplying the screenshot used in this unvouch request.
Please keep in mind the current standings, 1 month duration is the minimum TYVM
Attachments:
level 1:
– starts veteran over disc
– starts 200 vet (can leak free)level 7/8
– sits on ~200 gold for like 30 seconds 4/1 before pushinglevel 10
– doesnt upgrade king to save super close heal despite the call clearly being to save the heallevel 15
– pushes 7/5 during 15 despite super close race when our king never was maxed even by the endconclusion:
wtfAttachments:
1. I disagree with you about this ‘trust issue’ in lihl. Every fully vouched player has proven that they can consistently play well within lihl’s environment and therefore the vast majority of unsolicited advice is given with regards to improving the gamestate for the team rather than simply playing someone else’s line. There’s a major difference between wanting to win and communicating in order to better the chances of it and not trusting other’s opinions. Moreover if you’re going to make this claim which is essentially a veiled insult to all the players then I insist that you provide some form of evidence to show its a recurrent issue rather than an occasional occurrence.
To me it feels like you’re projecting your own shortcomings as a player on the league as a whole, labelling advice as control and your own mistakes as the result of what you’ve essentially described as too much help. I grant you that if three other people are giving different advice then its not possible to follow all three ways of playing but its still your responsibility to have your own plan and your own understanding of the gamestate and analyse each piece of advice against this understanding in order to determine how you’re going to proceed.
There are different ways to play every roll and the vast majority of them have some level of reasoning and upside to them, a decision that doesnt end up paying off for your lane individually doesnt mean it wasn’t a good decision in the specific game.
2. Yes, everyone’s been in a similar situation to you, myself included. They either fucked up and want out or feel that the game is over and continuing is a waste of time. Everyone else I’ve seen has either rq and accepted the consequences or played the game forward, often just following the person/people that still want to play on. While neither of these can be considered ‘ideal’ neither option is as disrespectful and downright dishonest as your way of handling the situation. Instead of either of these you decided that, since you’re better than everyone else, it was the right thing to insist on a draw so that you could save both your elo and your ego at the detriment of 7 other people. All I can say is this is too far below my personal standard to ever want to see you back in lihl.
This also wont be the last time you find yourself in similar situations, I dont trust you to act differently going forwards, especially if you end up being fully vouched and feel your position in lihl is secure. Every noshow/dc/draw request will seem suspicious from you and I don’t think that you’ll deal with it well and I suspect you’ll blame lihl for treating you unfairly again rather than taking an introspective glance at why people may feel this way. I can’t be sure this will be the case but I have evidence to suggest it will be and none to suggest it wont.
3. I fully agree with Moa, skillwise you’re nothing impressive and from what I’d seen I doubt you’d have passed your first trial. To me it seems that there’s many downsides to vouching you and really few upsides seeing as you didnt show the skill or potential of someone like Moa himself to the point where the league as a whole benefits from him playing there.
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!support
!support hyozardous
Watched the game and really the only cancer there was your attitude. Spam pinging threatening rq in allchat and constantly ordering/belittling the rest of the team for absolutely no good reason.
Your problem with him this game was that he stayed lower than you would have with a 2 grey/sabre build. Artmas clearly felt some extra ob was helpful and saved 100~ gold on 5 and 6 in order to get a second mermaid on 7 (made unnecessary due to 6 send).
So since he decided on some extra overbuild as the only good holder against straight (assumed 7) send (hydra with no adds would not be mid vs str7) you feel that makes his gameplay worthy of posting an alleged negative replay on his vouch request?
My recommendation is to bring your ego back to earth, you’re still a new member and that kind of attitude will get you in strife with moderation if it continues.
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This reply was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by
epicdeath.
I think a lot of the issue here stems from our ‘meta’. More or less everyone playing actively in LIHL transitioned from a hosting service called ENT. The meta that developed there sees the majority of players push lumber while a fewer number (sometimes none) overbuild early game (obviously it differs game to game but this is the scaffold). So in our meta/playstyle overbuilding hard with a lane that would leak units to a small send would be extremely harmful to the team. 1215 value I’m assuming you were around 4/1 so you provide very little in the way of send pressure and you’re also not particularly useful holding in mid.
If I were reviewing your vrq I’d make the same decision, players that are used to the same meta and who have ‘LIHL level’ skill (not saying you don’t) take time to transition into a new playerbase with the niches of calling, player tendancies, advice ect but for a player who would, from what mods have seen, relearn the ‘correct’ way to play LTD to have any hope of being at an acceptable standard is not vouch-worthy.
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This reply was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by
epicdeath.
Personally wouldnt support implementing a rule about this unless it clearly becomes necessary, people got used to signing after game ends on disc so hopefully everyone continues to sign fairly, if not then guess u gotta do sth about it
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